LYME Vs CANDIDA update

This is really interesting. The symptoms are very similar to mine. I think I might have more Candida symptoms than Lyme now. If I have any sugar at all, the back of my head and brain tingle and my neck gets stiff and I get dizzy.

Little Bear - interesting that you have that symptom. I am on a ton of anti-fungal herbs and I've noted the same thing off and on for a couple of weeks and kept thinking I was ovulating over and over (which seemed strange since I am on the pill). Hmmmm......

superj50 - I have brain fog, headaches, face pressure, head pressure, and anxiety on various levels throughout the day.

I might ask my doc for a two week diflucan.

I don't know lymepickle - does anyone have input on this - can diflucan fight against lyme? I honestly don't think so. I am going to ask my Dr and see what her opinion is - and will get back with her answer as well as the name of the candida test.

and no, lymepickle the symptoms I mentioned can be either or - Candida is well known for causing the issues I have, and plus if it was lyme that caused my face to get numb, it would not have gone away - it went away before i started the diflucan - and that proves that it was a side effect of the candida test, which proves candida can most certainly cause numbness.

Post Edited (Chapelle) : 12/14/2015 9:26:28 AM (GMT-7)

HI,
Mister Mike, how did you do that (find my link)? Do you have a list of the links somewhere that you can refer to? I am in awe!

I have read that fluconazole can fight lyme as a cyst buster, but NOT diflucan. they are different. One is for one kind of yeast and the other is for a different kind of yeast. When referring to Candida it can be many of different kinds of fungus. So if you try diflucan and it does not work, that does not mean you do not have Candida. It means you should try fluconazole.

Also, I was told by P that the nystatin capsules or the liquid form are no good and will not help. You absolutely need the pure powder. It is imperative. All others have fillers.

There are lots of natural things you can do to fight this also.

My doctor said that Lyme symptoms and Candida symptoms can be exactly the same!

Lymepickle-I have wanted to try the bulletproof coffee. It sounds really great. I am being checked again for Candida, it may have come back. If it did, I will get on that coffee.

DB

Chappell, Now I am supper confused. I thought there were 2 different drugs for Candida and I thought they were different. Is there a different drug used for Candida?

I will investigate and get back to you.

There are several antifungals but the most common are diflucan and nystatin

diflucan as i mentioned earlier in the thread is absorbed within the bloodstream and treats systemic candida. Nystatin only treats candida that is in the gi tract. that is why those who try to treat systemic candida get nowhere with nystatin.

Absolutely Sarah, you are correct, but at the same time, some should be open the possibility and explore it further, especially if they can't seem to beat lyme. Another possibility could be that some who have both lyme and candida can't get better from lyme because of the candida

OOps, forgot to ask if anyone knows of a good source for D-mannose??

hey traveler, thank you so much for chyming in -

that makes perfect sense, I was thinking the same thing that if diflucan was actually a cyst buster then I would have felt worse, not better - appreciate you clarifying that!!!

now it all kind of makes sense - I couldnt handle any typical cyst busters when i was treating lyme, such as GSE, and wouldnt go near flagyl or tindimax, but since i took diflucan for a good while, maybe diflucan did it's job as a cyst buster, bc i was worried about getting lyme back if i didnt use one. I ended up getting a tremor in my hands from diflucan, and i thought it was a side effect, but now that this info surfaced, it must have been a herx!

lymepickle - we cant believe everything we read on the internet, i am sure there are articles saying that the sky is green and the grass is blue, LOL - you know what i mean - there are arguments for and against everything you can possibly think of.

However, you do have a point Lymepickle - i was wondering that too. could it be a possibility that while taking the diflucan, I am keeping the yeast at bay and therefore my immune system is then able to fight off the lyme - in other words, bc my candida got so bad, it flared up the lyme symptoms as you said - but i just dont feel sick anymore, there is a huge difference from when I had lyme to now. I don't think I would have been able to do the 40 mile bike tour if I still had active lyme - my goal this year is to do the long island 1/2 marathon, gonna start training in January!!!

Candida does indeed cause numbness. I had candida for years before lyme and didnt know it - that explains why I would get a numb toe now and again. If you research it carefully enough, numbness and tingling will surely be on the candida list!

oh, and traveler, I took the source naturals brand of D mannose, ordered it from amazon. It did its job well!!

Post Edited (Chapelle) : 12/14/2015 2:51:23 PM (GMT-7)

hmmm lol - i dont know!! it would only happen when i had shoes on and when i was at work. it was weird. i used to think it was my shoes, but now i know that wasn't the case - bc i surely did not have lyme back then!! i had that numb toe, i had constipation issues, endometriosis, gastric reflux, stomach aches, headaches.....all at different points in time, but all of those symptoms are connected to candida - esp. the endometriosis. it all began to make sense and come together once i discovered i had candida from all of the antibiotics i took as a kid without probiotics (i got sick ALOT and took dose after dose after dose - did what the dr told me to do!! grrrrrr) and so then when i had lyme. it just came roaring back from being on antibiotics for months - and my sweet tooth - ha! forget it, uncontrollable at times!!!!

so well said - like a bear looking for honey!! hey, is that why your username is little bear lol

well......i kinda fell behind over the weekend - no time when the kids are home. I am doing more this week, LOL. when there is a will there is a way! i will get it all in before dec 31st!!!

Thanks for sharing all this info. 3 years ago, my whole Lyme/Candida journey began with numbness in my big toe. Hmmmm....

No one can say "If you are struggling with Lyme, it is pretty safe to say you have a fungal problem as well." While it's necessary to be watched and checked for one - because it can impede healing - it's just not an assumption that should be made. There needs to be other factors involved for fungal issues to be an issue.

Abx use is a large factor for fungal issues, a person doesn't have to have Lyme to have issues with fungus while using abx. I used herbs for 2.5 years with no breaks and never once had any fungal issues - even though I was being treated for Lyme specifically for the first 12 months of that treatment.

As far as GSE (Grapefruit Seed Extract) for cyst busting, Buhner doesn't believe it helps anywhere but the GI tract:

" I did not look at GSE in lyme as it is not very systemic. It should be effective for lyme infection of the GI tract but I doubt it would do well for the central nervous sytem or secluded cysts."

buhnerhealinglyme.com/lyme/gse-for-cysts/

LOL! I was going to email you and suggest it!! I'll explain it on here for others to know, but will send you an email anyway.

So what I believe to be best is to just start another thread. Once you have posted that thread, then you can "link" the two threads by posting a link to the first thread (this one) in the new thread and posting a link to the new thread in this one. That way when this post is looked up by someone new or that isn't a member (yet ), they can easily locate and read the entire thing.