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Posted 12/23/2015 4:21 AM (GMT 0)
December 19 was my 6 month BVT anniversary! I am amazed how great I feel, sometimes to the point I am forgetting just how bad I used to feel. I occasionally still get some pain but pain was my biggest complaint, stiff necks and sore muscles were my second worst symptoms and I am getting an occasional stiffness which I think is retracing. I occasionally feel a bladder spasm but I'm not up 4-5 times thru the night anymore to pee and not running there all day long like I used too. The left hand neuropathy is gone or might occasionally tingle. Once in awhile something will set the tinnitus in my right ear off but all the pain and tapping noises are gone and once I get away from the noise that sets the flutter off, it's gone. The other 50 symptoms are forgotten. I am still having a few memory problems but are probably normal. I am out exercising, either biking or walking and I'm going to add some calisthenics to my routine. However, I am still trying to get rid of the tendonitis that I've had since summer so I can get back to golfing with my hubby. I am also off my thyroid medicine, I believe BVT has brought it back in balance. I have so much energy every day and I am sleeping good every night and waking up feeling refreshed. I can't wait to see what the next 6 months bring me. The BVT has given me way better results then antibiotics and herbs ever did. If you are interested in learning more, please feel free to email me

Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 12/23/2015 8:47:21 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/23/2015 5:48 AM (GMT 0)
Im 7 sessions in and it does stop the pain for a day ..has its own pain its worth the trade ..how are your adrenals ..histamines? What do you do for the itching? Did abx help reduce the load?what Did xylotol help with? I will look at the site you mentioned...
Posted 12/23/2015 6:26 AM (GMT 0)
That's wonderful, Revive - so happy for you!
Posted 12/23/2015 7:22 AM (GMT 0)
Revive,
Congratulations!
I wonder in one year or two how many people on this forum will doing BVT?
Posted 12/23/2015 8:00 AM (GMT 0)
How about Lyme with anxiety.

Did it help with that aspect? Specifically social anxiety.
Posted 12/23/2015 3:02 PM (GMT 0)
Bluelyme,
The itching goes away, mine took about 5 weeks. I had pretty bad pain everyday and it is very few days I even get pain now and it's just a short period of time, mostly my herxes. I would think we all had adrenal issues but everything is in balance now, I do take 1 rhodiola per day but that's it. I have the MTHFR double mutation on the 677?, I take methyl b-12 & methylfolate everyday. I was on anx when I started in June but by the first of August I quit and have only done BVT. The venom also gets into the bio films so I don't worry about taking xylitol, my LLMD had me doing it 5 days every month but I never even herxed from it.

There are people who are starting out on BVT as there only way of killing Lyme and Co, wish I had heard about it soon, I would rather go the natural route then have taken anx/herbs.

For the skeptics, Google Ellie Lobel and bees, she was abut to die from yrs of Lyme and got attacked by bees and felt better.

Plus Amber Rose has healed people of multiple things for over 22 yrs including Lyme in her own body.

Thanks Girlie

Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 12/23/2015 8:46:53 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/23/2015 3:46 PM (GMT 0)
Congratulations, Revive! I'm so happy that it's working so well for you!! I know that there are several others that have done well with BVT as well.

And no, we don't all have adrenal issues, but a good majority do, especially if they have lived with chronic Lyme for a long period of time.

BVT is not for everyone - it's really that simple. We don't allow people to put down other forms of treatment here, though, so I edited your post.

And, would you please not keep posting about the sites? If you have a personal blog you can post them in your signature line, but we don't allow members to 'advertise' other groups here each time they post an update on how they are doing. I appreciate your understanding.

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Posted 12/23/2015 7:18 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Revive,
I stared BVT, because I saw your post on healing well. I kind of jumped into it. I am up to 7 stings. And Herx like crazy from it. Kinda scary stuff. It definitely is doing something.
I still am not feeling better, but probably have too many critters being killed.
Thanks for sharing this with us.
Posted 12/24/2015 1:22 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks so much for updating Revive! It's the next step in my treatment to start this. Hopefully soon.
Posted 12/24/2015 3:05 AM (GMT 0)
Right Traveler, I think since I've been suffering for 17 yrs that's think others have also been suffering long time. I'm just excited with the results that we are getting and these others that are stuck, this is just another way of healing but I understand.

Ela9049, that is awesome, so glad you decided to try it.
Posted 12/24/2015 4:49 AM (GMT 0)
lymedriven

I am also doing BVT, my 5 month anniversary was yesterday! I also have had many many improvements, not symptom free yet but things are so much better and my life has been given back to me.
I wanted to address your question about anxiety/social anxiety. Prior to diagnosis I started reclusing myself and didn't realize it for awhile. This is one of my improvements. I went Christmas shopping for 12 hours with my mom and my sister last Saturday....packed out mall and packed out stores!!!! I had a great great time! Zero issues!!!
Yes it helps with lyme anxiety and social anxiety!!! If you would like more info please email me.
Posted 12/24/2015 4:55 AM (GMT 0)
Mister Mike, the histamine issues are a concern...there are folks that are doing BVT that have high histamine levels with success. If you want you can email me and I can put you in contact with some folks that have more experience with it then me!
Posted 12/24/2015 1:20 PM (GMT 0)
So happy for all those doing BVT with success!!! May it long continue and bring each of you full healing!

I'd consider switching treatment if I wasn't doing so well on Buhner's herbs. I feel I'm thisclose to full healing. I only have one, super-mild symptom left and, if I herx, the 1-2 symptoms I get are very mild and don't last long at all.

We each need to find what works for us. Everybody's body is different and will respond differently to different types of treatment.

No matter what, healing can happen for everyone.
Posted 12/28/2015 6:24 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you cd...prayers for your continued success!
Posted 12/28/2015 6:47 PM (GMT 0)

Revive said...
Right Traveler, I think since I've been suffering for 17 yrs that's think others have also been suffering long time. I'm just excited with the results that we are getting and these others that are stuck, this is just another way of healing but I understand.

I do completely understand your excitement and I do hope that you and others using this "new" treatment will continue to update us. We can't put down other forms of treatment or the choices others make for treatment, but it sure doesn't need to stop us from posting about our improvements!!
Posted 12/28/2015 10:57 PM (GMT 0)
I think histamine and mast cell thing is a point to consider. My food allergies were acting up before i started bvt. I think that is gut flora related however my adrenals were kicking off when i would sleep prior to. I think mast cells drop histamines in response to inflammation and then adrenaline surges to clear them from system . Amber rose suggests doing 3000 mg of vit c daily to replenish . The energy and relief maybe in part to this mechanism. I have heard that cortisol may provide relief in its own right but it does seem to awaken immune system . Also it may distract it from attacking self (confused because of osp of bb being shed as they drill) the bvt has helped my vasculitis. I want to throw everything and the kitchen sink at these buggers. Still waiting for that patience script any luck on that trav? The only study was by rocky mountain labs in 97 in vitro. Norquist did something on mouth spirochettes and honey was the only thing to stop them in there tracks. Ms patients have been using bvt for a long time against cpn which i also have. Simics of bc says its effective as a sub cutanous shot with compunded procaine but purests say there is something in live stings. The dopeamine and other constituents help emensly with depression and anxiety after rush and day of feeling ok is gone i want more and herx is kinda rough .i am only two months in...my gf said pick your poison. Which has me thinking super nettles, sea urchins (half joking) also there is a little mite that has infected many bee colonies do they carry bb? Maybe i am overthinking it
Posted 12/28/2015 11:22 PM (GMT 0)
Revive, I am so happy for your success.

However, I have a friend that tried it and was extremely allergic.

People that are reading this: Please have a bee sting kit handy. The kit includes a syringe and a dose of epinephrine (also known as adrenaline), a drug that can save your life if you go into anaphylactic shock. It's also a good idea for a beginner to get a single "test sting" on the knee or forearm before undergoing a full bee barrage. But remember, the fact that your body tolerated the first 49 stings doesn't automatically mean it can handle the 50th.

We almost lost my friend so I just feel I have to put this warning out there.

That being said, I have heard wonderful things (as did my friend and that's why she tried it).

I really am so glad it is working for you.

And who knows, I may try it.
Posted 12/28/2015 11:41 PM (GMT 0)
PeteZa - I believe that having an epipen handy is part of the "package" when doing BVT.

Revive has mentioned it on more than one occasion.
Posted 12/29/2015 3:24 PM (GMT 0)
PeteZa,

The protocol calls for an epi pen, children's liquid benedryl, alcohol free, you must take 3000 mg Vitamin C per day, and we test sting 1 inch from spine, pulling the stinger right away and waiting 20-30 minutes before stinging again. For the first few months stay stinging on the back only, one inch from the spine between the waist and upper thoracic area, don't do the cervical right away.

If you sting on the knee or forearm right away, you might really swell up bad so we creep down the leg or arm, going slowly and after only about 2-3 months.

Stinging along the spine, 1 inch from it, it will follow the nerves and can spread throughout the whole body.
Posted 12/29/2015 3:30 PM (GMT 0)
Oh this makes me feel so much better. I have no idea how my friend did hers. She was doing it for ms and various other things and little did she know how allergic she was to bee stings.
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