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Posted 1/18/2016 7:21 AM (GMT 0)
Could someone comment on the use of apitherapy (bee stings) to treat Lyme?

Proponents seem to think it's extremely effective.

fyi, I am not advocating that anyone do it; I would just like information and opinions (for my own use).

I know that Klinghardt talks about it, but based on what I read tonight, he seems to think that it's only to be used as an adjunct, and only to treat pain.

Am I wrong?

Margaret
Posted 1/18/2016 8:35 AM (GMT 0)
There are a few members who are doing the BVT - Revive being one of them.

Here is a link to an update:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3535651

They are doing the BVT to treat, not just for relief of symptoms.
Posted 1/18/2016 11:47 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Girlie,

Thanks so much for the link.

To do bee venom therapy, you can't be on beta blockers. It's been a week or so since I went off of them, but now my heart rate is shooting up.

I'm going to keep an eye on my heart, but I might not be able to do that either! It was starting to become one of my last resorts.

The abx are giving me diarrhea, so I think I'll have to tell my LLMD (once again) to take me off abx and go with herbs only. She wants me on ivs!

I'm going to try to treat mold too.

If the herbs help my heart, then I might reconsider.

M
Posted 1/19/2016 2:35 AM (GMT 0)
Hi tg,
I am doing bvt... my therapist said today the reason one cant beta block is because if one does need a epi shot the betablocker would inhibit its function .however ...it sounds like the nerves of your heart are being effected ?do you have a branch block?. Even neil spectors iv abx couldnt stop that but maybe worth a shot. .also i really wanna believe in rife..?i too am playing with my heart and head...from your signature you are quite a inspiration ,have a lot going on and i pray you find relief...i do feel relief from pain for a day ..then the herx.. stings themselves have gotten to be burning sensations i masochistically look foward to. Adrenals need to be strong and or supported.
Posted 1/19/2016 3:01 AM (GMT 0)
Hi bluelyme,

Thanks so much for answering. What is a branch block? So far, all I've been dxed with is unspecified tachycardia.

The trouble with rife is that it's way too expensive for me.

Geez, that signature is old!! I haven't even updated it. Maybe I will.

I wish I were an inspiration to myself! Not so these last few months, although I have plugged on and on through this illness.

So is pain relief the only benefit you get from BVT, or do you think the therapy actually treats Lyme and cos and MSIDs?

I take herbal adrenals, but I'm having huge problems with thyroid at present, plus G knows what else, so it's hard to tell if they're helping or not.

The bee venom FB lady (I need to protect her identity) told me she thought I should go ahead and sting even with a beta blocker, and just start very gradually. But for me to do so, I need to be convinced that it really does heal all of the conditions we tend to have.

Thanks for commenting; look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Margaret
Posted 1/19/2016 6:31 AM (GMT 0)
The ladys say it kills viruses too..amber rose claims it powers thru biofilm...i still take enzyme. Charlie mraz pioneered the ms treatment and i think it worked against cpn infection..which i have too. So the two high functioning people i met did abx then h202 then keep in remission with venom...i did order some venex. M simics says dr k cocktail and 10 stings 3x week for a few years will kill it. and will see if thats as good as live ...someone said live has more peptides and aminos that liquid and needle with procaine cant simulate....branch bundle block has to do with nerves around heart... one anecdotal story is that their hoshindo teacher once stung a ladies skin cancer and her daughter called saying her cancer was falling off her face!...i thought i had ms and then als and venom seems to have stopped it for now... however it is great for cognitive and does cross bbb but i dont think we can get levels enough to get infection of heart . Even iv abx has trouble concentrating there. There is only a few papers .one done by rocky Mountain labs 1997 says all motile function of bb ceases in vitro with exposure to mettlin.one by dr k and one by buhner .i did see a dr norquist utoob of dental spirochettes dying with the exposure to honey. If only we could inject that with out insulin consequence. .ha. propolis is to aid in digestion .what are you on for your thyroid.replacement hormones.?how is your calcium levels? That could affect the heart rhythm. I am thinking infections causes auto immune like hashimotos. and parathyriod manifestastions.i am looking into spooky 2 but 'renting 'time on gb4000 with mopa.Well know by your perseverance you are inspiring .

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 1/18/2016 11:38:10 PM (GMT-7)

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