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Posted 12/7/2014 2:40 PM (GMT 0)
Then can I have you change the title of this post? You are not cured, yet that is what you have stated. You are experimenting with this.

Not that I really blame you for experimenting, but we surely don't want to lead people on by telling them this will cure their Lyme disease and you have no idea.

With so many natural cures already tested and tried out there, can I ask why you are experimenting? Now I'm just curious.
Posted 12/7/2014 2:48 PM (GMT 0)
No problem. I have changed it.

I feel this seeds is helping symptoms the most than any I tried so far.
Posted 12/7/2014 2:52 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you!! I'm very interested in following your progress, so please do continue to let us know how you are doing!!
Posted 12/7/2014 2:54 PM (GMT 0)

Traveler said...
Thank you!! I'm very interested in following your progress, so please do continue to let us know how you are doing!!

Yes, makes sense to change the title.

..And thank you. I will continue to update.
Posted 12/7/2014 8:41 PM (GMT 0)
There was a person at our Lyme group meeting a while back who used pumpkin seeds in conjunction with some other things. I know people who use it for worming animals, but I wouldn't think it would do much against Lyme.
Posted 12/7/2014 9:47 PM (GMT 0)
Ok....so just so i know what to expect, and can prepare myself...how bad does it taste? Cant have any honey...doing the candida diet.
Posted 12/8/2014 12:17 AM (GMT 0)

dying2getwell said...
Ok....so just so i know what to expect, and can prepare myself...how bad does it taste? Cant have any honey...doing the candida diet.

It's pretty pungent if you take the seeds alone and chew them thoroughly. This is the way I consume them.

When I eat the seeds, I don't just swallow, I chew, and chew and chew, to grind it down as much as possible.

Sometimes I let it sit between my gums... & finally i gulp it down with water.

If you research online you can find how to use them in different ways.

Here is one link:
http://www.alyusra.com/blackseed/uses%20of%20black%20seed.htm
Posted 12/8/2014 12:30 AM (GMT 0)

Mister Mike said...
I'm very interested in this as well Lymedriven. If you have already explained it, please forgive me, but what drew you to trying these seeds for Lyme if there isn't a body of work on them?

With Lyme and the co-infections I'm always leary of "one cure", because these infections are so incredibly complex. That is also part of the reason why I've lost faith in pharmaceutical antibiotics.

My experience with black seed and my belief that black seed is a cure for everything except death as said by prophet muhammad(saw). I think it may have been also in the previous books of faith sent by God. :) The seed is God sent to heal disease. Of course, this is, my personal belief and personal opinion.

It has numerous studies and works for not only one condition but many.

My symptoms are lessening fast, and when I take the seeds, I get a strong reaction which I think the parasites are hating. (heart rate increases)

I've had periods of intense energy(too much energy when using these seeds); I know if must be having some sort of an effect.

I'm sharing this just to pass on information; in the case it may help someone out. I'm going to continue to
use the seed regularly as the remedy the all illness is only with the consistent use of the seed. :

Post Edited (lymedriven) : 12/7/2014 5:35:41 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/8/2014 2:14 PM (GMT 0)
Again, I would strongly caution anyone wishing to try this to be sure to check with your doctors. This is not a proven treatment that has healed anyone from Lyme disease or any other tick-borne infection and may have serious consequences if used in combination with other meds or herbs.
Posted 12/8/2014 5:10 PM (GMT 0)
Lymedriven, I am also got that strong heart reaction. I appreciate read your post on that because i taught i was allergic. This is so strange chemicals! I fall asleep during day at first, like it knows what was needed? strange energy boost today and yes, the kind of uneasy heart rate reaction.

Mystical is the name!
Posted 12/8/2014 7:45 PM (GMT 0)

James_B said...
Lymedriven, I am also got that strong heart reaction. I appreciate read your post on that because i taught i was allergic. This is so strange chemicals! I fall asleep during day at first, like it knows what was needed? strange energy boost today and yes, the kind of uneasy heart rate reaction.

Mystical is the name!

I will state precaution for others who want to try:
* Consult your doctor before using this seed.
* This is no medical advice.
* Use caution with these seeds. Take at your own risk.
* I advise to start off slowly
* You may experience heart palpatations or herx reactions soon after taking this stuff.

Yes, heart rate increase directly after taking this stuff. Use precaution because its strong, its NO JOKE(there are even studies of this inhibiting and stopping many types of cancer(many studies done), uses for anti helminthic properties, uses for worms, and parasites; )

Yup, you can expect energy boosts from this. DID YOU USE THE SEEDS? Alone or in combo?

When taken with tea it can make you sleepy, when taken with coffee, it gives me energy. With vinegar its suppose to have antihelminthic properties.

I am using vinegar and black seeds and will hopefully report back.

I'm feeling better today after black seeds and vinegar yesterday. I diluted the vinegar in water and then chew black seeds, then mixed some water with the chewed black seeds and swallowed.

I am glad you decided to give it a try.

Feel free to PM with any questions on how i use.

12/8/2014 - Day 2 Of Black Seed & Vinegar (before this i used seed alone for most part or with honey)
12/09/2014 - Continued black seed Use with some vinegar. 3-4 tsp. 2-3 grams niacin + other vitamins.
12/10/2014 - Fasting From Food Today: Took Black Seeds With Vitamin C 500 Mg. about a tsp or 1/2 teaspoon x 2 of black seed. Also took 1000mg niacin, then 2000 mg niacin. 2 Multivitamins Tablets, 2 Pills Krill Oil. 1 tsp apple cider vinegar.

Post Edited (lymedriven) : 12/10/2014 3:10:09 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/8/2014 8:03 PM (GMT 0)
Suprisingly enough, diluting vinegar in water and swallowing it with the seeds is pretty bearable going down. It's kind of masks the pungency of the black seed.
Posted 12/8/2014 9:04 PM (GMT 0)
I would prefer that we keep this to one thread right now, thank you. There are only two members using it and you are both posting in this one thread. It will help others that are looking at the information presented here.
Posted 12/9/2014 9:46 AM (GMT 0)
Don't know about this, but it will some how guide
theblessedseed.blogspot.se/2011/03/black-seed-is-herb-that-has-been-used.html
Posted 12/9/2014 10:01 AM (GMT 0)
lymedriven, I use it on the gum to stabilize my muscular/nervous system twitching and weakness.
To early to tell if it works yet.

I do not heat them up, as recommended for protecting the abdomen. Maybe that is a god idea though.
Posted 12/10/2014 1:34 AM (GMT 0)
Still on the black seeds regimen with lyme. Today I was getting thorbbing headaches that were going on and off. Yesterday night I had exercised and I just would not get tired; so I lifted weights, and also did some cardio. I'm also taking vitamins besides the black seed.

A FEW STUDIES ON NIGELLA SATIVA (INCLUDING SUPRESSION OF MALARIA IN RATS)
source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
*thymoquinone have potent antifungal effects on T. mentagrophytes, M. canis and M. gypseum as pathogenic dermatophyte strains
*In clinical practice, the agent of Nigella Sativa recovered as pustular from tissues of all patients. While the extract was as nearly effective as the standard drug, mupirocin, no side effect was observed.
*Thymoquinone supplementation reverses lead-induced oxidative stress in adult rat testes.
*Thymoquinone induces cell death in human squamous carcinoma cells via caspase activation-dependent apoptosis and LC3-II activation-dependent autophagy.
*The degree of suppression(plasmodium burghei(malaria)) with the combination was significantly higher compared to CQ alone (P < 0.001) (36.1%)produced 86.1% and 86.0% suppression respectively, while Nigella sativa oil extract in feed (NSOF) and in combination with CQ had 86.0% and 99.9% suppression respectively.
*Nigella sativa (N. sativa) seed, Black cumin, immunomodulatory activity has been investigated in human and mice. Little is known about the immunomodulatory effect of Nigella sativa (N. sativa) seed extract on animals' immune cells, specifically, antigen presenting cells such as macrophages. This study focused on the immunomodulatory effect of N. sativa seed extract on sheep macrophage functions in vitro. Sheep peripheral blood monocytes were isolated and derived to macrophages (MDM). The MDM were cultured with N. sativa seed extract and their morphological changes, phagocytic activity, nitric oxide production, and microbicidal activity were investigated. Marked morphological changes were observed in MDM cultured with N. sativa seed extract including cell size enlargement; increase in both cytoplasmic space and cytoplasmic granules. Significant increases in phagocytic activity to Candida albicans yeast and in number of yeast engulfed per individual MDM were observed in cells cultured with seed extract. MDM capacity to produce nitric oxide was higher in the culture media of the seed extract-cultured cells compared to the control. Interestingly, prominent enhancement in MDM microbicidal activity to yeast or bacteria was observed in MDM cultured with N. sativa seed extract confirming the potent immunostimulatory effect of the extract. From this study, it could be concluded that N. sativa seed extract can enhance macrophages' important innate immune functions that could control infectious diseases and regulate adaptive immunity. " (source

source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24991115

Post Edited (lymedriven) : 12/9/2014 7:00:04 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/10/2014 2:32 AM (GMT 0)
Mister Mike

Yes, I am helping my body detox by eating healthy, and taking supplements. Green tea always helps fight off radical damage and such. I felt great drinking green tea to help a lot when detoxing and nuero symptoms flare up. Drinking plenty water.

I may eat dinner extra early so i can start a fast, and then sleep through most of it in the night :).
Excercise in moderation and eating light to not stress my system.

I once did a 7 day fast, but im not planning anything like that soon, just treating the way I am now and keeping things simple as possible. I just do supplements and nigella sativa right now. Nueromolecular biology is what I am using to treat lyme. The use of vitamin to treat/heal diseases.

B3 in high doses along with other supplements that are antiinflammatory and antimicrobial; as well as multivitamin. Besides various dosages of different vitamins and minerals, the only thing I'm actually using against the lyme is nigella sativa seeds. It's working great so far.

In case anyone is interested I am doing the following:

multivtamin,
b complex (brain help)
vitamin c (antiflam/immune)
niacin(in high doses) (antimicrobial) CHECK THIS OUT: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/249511.php
selenium with vitamin e (antiviral)
krill oil (good for brain/protects against damage)
zinc (immune)
magnesium (muscle relaxant)
vitamin d (immune modulating)

+

Nigella Sativa Seeds.

Post Edited (lymedriven) : 12/9/2014 7:46:24 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/10/2014 2:20 PM (GMT 0)
I'm pretty sure Mister Mike meant are you doing things like dry skin brushing, oil pulling, Epsom salt/peroxide soaks and things like that for detoxing. I was thinking the same thing - that maybe you should be doing more to detox.
Posted 12/10/2014 2:45 PM (GMT 0)
I think I may need to do more detox also. I will plan a fast or something, I think its the best way to detox the system.
Posted 3/19/2015 6:38 PM (GMT 0)
I"m wondering how you guys are doing on black seed? I recently started it for Lyme after it was suggested in a histamine intolerance Facebook group. Apparently in addition to being antimicrobial it is a good mast cell stabilizer. I'm using it in addition to the Cowden herbal protocol. So far I'm feeling more energy and feeling stronger in general on it.

Post Edited (chilove) : 3/19/2015 12:43:24 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 2/16/2016 5:46 AM (GMT 0)
Hi guys.

I as a muslim believe in Black seed & Honey as divine cures.

I suffered/suffer from CFS/lyme-like disease (australian version) mycoplasma etc.

I used erthromycin for years with very good results then switched to doxy with good results. However after stopping 4-6months later I relapsed. So I decided to treat it with Honey ( raw-pure) with ground up powdered seeds ( nigella sativa or kalonji/black seeds) with tumeric daily.

This protocol gave me complete recovery even better than previous abtibiotics. However after stopping it and relocating to australia I relapsed & tried oral antibiotics with no long term results.

So I return to the honey & black seed and I have experienced the herxing but have improved already in 3 weeks.

Less pain
No seizures/tremors
Less GI problems
Better sleep
My lesions have resolved.

I truly blve this method to be excellent in clearing up the bugs & enhancing immune system.This time I will not be stopping protocol even after remission.

Black seed is best if ground and soaked in water overnight or olive oil or how Arab herbalists use grind up 500grams mix with 1 or 2 kg honey and eat a spoon 3-5 times daily.

Candida will not get worse on honey but you may exp loose motions or mucous as it cleanses toxins from GI. I had GI herxes for 6 weeks and then I woke up one day 6 weeks in feeling 100% and tolerated all foods.

My personal lifestyle & neglect to continue herbal regime resulted in my relapse after 5 years of good health.

I hope everyone can benefit from this.

Post Edited (Gabzz) : 2/15/2016 10:53:38 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/16/2016 1:05 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Gabzz, Welcome to our community! I'm so glad you found us.

While there are certainly health benefits to using black seed, I do have to disagree with you on those being a good treatment - you said: "However after stopping it and relocating to australia I relapsed..."

Just like the OP on this thread stating that they had been cured using this (read my post at the top of this page), we surely don't want to mislead people either.

I do wish you improved health and encourage you to use some of the herbs proven to work against this bacterial infection.
Posted 3/12/2016 11:33 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Traveller.


Yes "cured" should mean no trace of illness.
I did recover my health to 100% symptom free.
I tryly believe it was a combo of the antibiotics perhaps dealing with bacterial load

I also blve when living in 40-50©degress UAE my body temp helped fight bacteria.

I cannot deny that honey+black seed alone took me to a level I never exp since (infection).

Right now Im herxing a lot on both I gave uo hope on antibiotics because my Lyme MD has been hit & miss with his opinions.

I responded well to rif+cipro and rif+dox+amox+wormwood after this combo I felt amazing for few days. Dr changed it & I became worse than before. I feel that my (australian borrelia) is easy to kill but these co infections are preventing a cure.

Tbh I feel like I have Bart issues more than anything but my MD disagrees.

Sometimes its easier to go herbal & try cover all bugs with HOPE!

I will keep you guys posted about honey blackseed and hopefully good news to post.

My bio
Posted 3/13/2016 3:16 PM (GMT 0)
I'm sorry, Gabzz, but your post doesn't make sense. You said that you recovered your health 100%, yet you are currently herxing from treatment. Did you get reinfected or relapse?

You mentioned that you felt the Austrian Borrelia was easy to kill - does this mean that you believe you are only treating co-infections now? If so, it's very, very difficult to know if you are truly healed from Lyme until you have healed the other infections, as what ever infection has the highest bacterial load at the time will produce the most symptoms. A person can not even realize they have one of the infections until they have treated some of the infections they carry and lower the bacterial load.

Of course, we hope that you really are healed from Lyme and are only dealing with the co-infections!

And I wish to clarify again, I am not saying that these things are not good supportive therapies.

And I wish that it was true about the heat!! I used to live in Phoenix, Arizona and those temps were very, very common as well - yet it didn't help me at all. It can help you detox though! LOL! All that sweating has to be good for something!! LOL! smilewinkgrin

I look forward to more updates from you!
Posted 4/7/2016 5:24 PM (GMT 0)
I just got black seed in the mail yesterday. I'm so excited to try it. I've been researching and mostly reading reviews on this product and after I received it I ran upon this post after searching for more reviews. Praying it helps some. I'll post my results too.
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