Updated Buhner Protocols

The updated protocols are not on his website.

Yes, you need to purchase the book for them.

Try Chapters - they probably ship to Australia.

I don't have the new Lyme Book - I do have the Bartonella book.

Are you doing lyme treatment?

Girlie i am treating for Lyme,Bartonella,Mycoplasma and Babesia.

Thanks for the info though i will try chapters.

I'm so glad this topic came up...and that Girlie and NQA put that moral/ethical dilemma discussion out there.

I, too, chose to "not ask" about updated protocols because I wanted to support Buhner's work. But at the same time I felt sort of frustrated and weird about it. I've learned about what products to try, what to watch for, etc. because of how freely people discuss Buhner's (old) protocol on this forum. Health forums typically are a place of open discussion about healing methods - it is a very weird situation we are in where we feel the only appropriate answer is to buy a book?

It is especially confusing to someone who is new, because the OLD protocol was freely shared on Buhner's own website...but the new protocol isn't posted anywhere. Many start herbs doubting if they even have Lyme initially, to see how their bodies respond. I completely put off buying the book because I was already overloaded with information. I just yesterday bought the book (plus co-infection books) AFTER starting the core protocol, because I am convinced I am on the right track now.

I just don't think you can write a book today, with the internet world's sharing of information as it is, expecting the information to not be openly discussed in forums or Lyme sites. Especially with such a challenging illness as Lyme, where we learn what works and what doesn't from those who are currently living with it. Also, when you write a book whose purpose is to heal the sick, you just have to expect the information will fall into the hands of those in need.

Again, so appreciate this open discussion. I coincidentally have just walked down this exact path the past few weeks. Thanks everyone!

Hi Peteza ,


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PeteZa said...
you got double help!! LOL

Thank you so much cd.

Talk about simultaneous posting!! lol

I was just passing through and maintain the instructions for easy copying and pasting...so I did ;)

Your instructions are better PeteZa!

Oh Surm,

I wouldn't be doing my job right here if I didn't tell you to start one drop of one herb and then wait a couple days to gauge response. If you're not herxing too horribly, add in another drop of the herb at another dosing time. Same deal with adding the 3rd dosing time.

Buhner recommends getting all of the herbs going in low doses before increasing to take advantage of the synergies of the herbs (they enhance the actions of each other).

Japanese Knotweed is really the best herb to start. It's a potent anti-inflammatory and crosses the blood brain barrier. It also clears neurotoxins.

And, if you've read enough threads on here, you'd be expecting me to tell you to detox, detox, detox ;)

I cannot express the importance of this enough. All the while you've had these infections, the bugs have been going through their life cycles and creating toxins which are what cause our symptoms. Once you start treatment, more toxins will be created as the bugs die. You need to clear them out before they get reabsorbed by the body and make symptoms worse.

The sooner you get a daily detoxing protocol going....one that you start slowly but continue to add to.....the easier you'll be able to handle treatment.

This site has some great suggestions:

www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

An easy method is drinking lemon water throughout the day. Dry skin brushing before your shower followed by a cold rinse are 2 more easy ones. And taking a binder like activated charcoal is always a good idea (you need to be sure to take it 3 hours away from everything - food, herbs, supplements) The more methods you use daily, the better you'll be able to handle treatment.

Good luck with everything!!!

Surm
Just and FYI- 31 of Buhners books are available for kindle download from Amazon Australia.

Thank you so much!!Cd3764 you sure are very helpful and and full of knowledge must say that out of your experience in treating these infections please suggest.

I never had a major major herx apart from just now last week from cats claw or Jk I have handled well do get weird feeling like light head or dizziness or more pain in legs when I wake up in morning.

My 2 major concerns are

1 nerve issues nerve pain has gone a little more intense as am treating.I do have bursitis in my hips so it plays its part in spoilig the party.what to do in this thing detox yes I will get onto it and will detox like crazy.


2 is morning sickness and pain in legs specially shins I have noticed a lot of tangled nerves which are very sensitive to even touch dunnoo what they are some say it's veins but is weird specially shins.

Please put some light on this if you can.

Happy to help, Surm! I'm just paying forward the help I've received (and I really need to do something with all the research I've done ;)

Nerve issues have been predominant for me as well. Lyme attacks our myelin sheaths (the protective coverings on our nerves). As you can imagine, this leaves our nerves exposed and translates into all kinds of symptoms including pain, sensitivities, neuropathy and more.

Bartonella creates inflammation to ensure its survival. Therefore, any sites of existing inflammation (such as your bursitis), attracts Bartonella since part of its work is already done. Shin pain is classic Bartonella.

Things will s-l-o-w-l-y start improving once you get the entire protocols going. You could very well herx at times but, again, that effective detoxing protocol will go a long way to minimizing herxes.

For nerve pain, Buhner recommends:

1/4 tsp 3x daily Greater Celandine tincture plus 1/2 tsp 3-4 x daily Kudzu root tincture

I've never had nerve pain and, therefore, did not have the need for Greater Celandine. However, Kudzu is helpful for other brain and nerve-related issues.

I've been taking Kudzu since I first started Buhner's protocols. It cleared my brain fog within a month of starting it.

If you haven't been doing so already, I highly suggest maintaining a daily symptoms journal or spreadsheet. Improvements can come slowly and can often be subtle. A journal will help you recognize them.

Best of luck to you moving forward!!!