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Posted 3/18/2016 7:05 PM (GMT 0)
Through my extensive lyme research since all my symptoms popped up a few months ago, I can't believe I never came across this or anything similar.

I started researching lyme and collagen more specifically because, I started experiencing symptoms of loss of collagen. For example my skin very easily imprints now (especially after waking up) and it takes like 2 hours for these pillow marks to go away. Another example is my face needs a couple hours to "wake up" as well. New thin wrinkles and folds in skin are starting to appear. Bags under my eyes, etc.

I quickly learned what the cause is - lyme and co. So I searched for something that would be helpful and ran across this product from another fellow lymie on this board. They only had good things to say about it and that it works. I was a bit skeptical how well it could work (or even work) because everyone and their mom would be using it. We'll I'm learning from the lyme world that many health benefits (that work) are not necessarily main stream.

I read nothing (literally) but good reviews for this product. Normally when you read reviews it's a mixed bag, but reviews from multiple different sites with hundreds of reviews and everyone is raving about it.

It helps with more youthful and firmer skin. Elasticity of the skin and connective tissues. Wrinkles going away. Face look fuller. But also greatly helps joint pain and arthritis (all related to collagen/cartilage). So many people have also raved about help digestion (leaky gut) and sleep.

Am I just late to the party? And why didn't anyone tell me this!! lol.

I ordered mine and it comes in tomorrow. Based on my research and the reviews I've read I'm pretty optimistic.

Anyone else have experiences with this product?
Posted 3/18/2016 7:16 PM (GMT 0)
I absolutely love it and I love this product as well because it mixes with my morning coffee and does not alter the taste.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XNTKG2C?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

Biosil is another of my favorites. I used the drops first but now I have gone onto capsules.

I actually have horrible knees and I think all 3 of these help.

I too had those "sleep lines" for hours after waking up. No getting up late and going somewhere. I had to wait until the lines were gone.
Posted 3/18/2016 7:18 PM (GMT 0)
Yes! I had taken biosil for a while and didn't notice any difference. But since I started taking the Great Lakes Gelatin, my skin doesn't crack quite as much, and my fingernails are growing much faster than they have in a long time.
Posted 3/18/2016 7:20 PM (GMT 0)
I didn't notice any differences with BioSil, either.

However, it detoxes aluminum and is part of bone metabolism so hubby and I plan on taking it for the rest of our lives.
Posted 3/18/2016 7:21 PM (GMT 0)
By the way, Buhner recommended Great Lakes Gelatin in his original book on Lyme that was published in 2005.....and he continues to recommend it in his latest book on Lyme that was published last year.
Posted 3/18/2016 7:26 PM (GMT 0)
cd3764,

I guess I am late to the party then :-)

Peteza,

Did the sleep lines reduce or go away? And Yes I know all to well about giving my skin and face a couple hours to "wake up" before I go out and about.
Posted 3/18/2016 7:30 PM (GMT 0)
dacarte

You've embraced vital concepts so very quickly and got to the party well before I did.

I read Buhner's older book shortly after I got diagnosed. I was so brain fogged then that I missed the gelatin bit. I only started the stuff a few months ago ;)
Posted 3/18/2016 7:42 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you cd3764,

I'm a little.......well "retentive", so when I got lyme it was no different. It was all "what can I do about it". Every symptom or issue it caused, I knew knowledgeable people on this board well have an answer or at least lead me to one. So I'm constantly researching.

If I had to deal with all this on my own (no healing well lyme board and no talking to members offline) I would be a wreck mentally because I would feel so lost and helpless.
Posted 3/19/2016 5:19 AM (GMT 0)
My doctor is having me take 2 BioSil capsules twice a day. I'm wondering if I should also add in the Great Lakes Gelatin? How do you guys take it?
Posted 3/19/2016 11:33 AM (GMT 0)
JSlag,

What are your issues specifically?

I haven't taken it yet (gets here today). But with us lymies, if anything provides very good collagen, cartilage (joint), and gut support, then we should probably take it.

I was very surprised that every (100+) reviews I read people were raving about it including other lymies. I would recommend giving it a shot.

Give it 2-4 weeks before you start seeing noticeable improvement.
Posted 3/19/2016 12:51 PM (GMT 0)
very good read:

http://empoweredsustenance.com/collagen-hydrolysate-gelatin-hormones
Posted 3/19/2016 1:37 PM (GMT 0)
The main component of gelatin is gylcine. People with chronic infections like Lyme often have deficiencies in intracellular polyamines because of the chronic infection. A precursor to polyamine production in the body is glycine. I've talked before about people with protozoal infections having a greater deficiency in glycine because the protozoans utilize glycine in their reproduction.

I forget the percentage, but gelatin is less than 40% glycine. If gelatin is helping, glycine may be a better choice as it can be dosed much easier. Some physicians recommend as much as 10g per day. Most studies show benefits from 1g per day and up. There are many studies on this. My thoughts are 5 or 6g a day would be optimal based on our own body's ability to produce some glycine. I have dozens of references on glycine on its beneficial effects.
Posted 3/19/2016 2:33 PM (GMT 0)
I have a smoothie a day and Great Lakes is one of the ingredients.

I never really timed the sleep lines. But I can tell you that my manicurist noticed that my nails are stronger and longer. My hairdresser said my my hair was growing fast and is so healthy.

That was enough for me!
Posted 3/19/2016 2:34 PM (GMT 0)
Just got a great deal on this gelatin (16.45 vs. 21.49 on Amazon) on Thrive Market plus a free big bottle of avocado oil.

Here is a link to Thrive market if anyone is interested. They have tons of quality food and household. Totally worth checking it out.

http://thrv.me/cDnZhB

Been adding it to my morning tea for several months now along with a tablespoon of coconut oil.

Honestly, I can't tell if anything works or not. With this neurolyme if I do think something helps it forgotten by the next day. Bah.

But, it's good for gut health and my nails do seem to be harder so that's something.
Posted 3/19/2016 2:51 PM (GMT 0)

Tillybear said...
Just got a great deal on this gelatin (16.45 vs. 21.49 on Amazon) on Thrive Market plus a free big bottle of avocado oil.

Thank you Tillybear. I will make sure to buy the next canister from here. I paid the amazon price initially.
Posted 3/19/2016 2:52 PM (GMT 0)
Has anybody taken gelatin that is used for cooking to have similar effect?
I heard it is good for connective tissue.
Posted 3/19/2016 2:59 PM (GMT 0)

PeteZa said...
I have a smoothie a day and Great Lakes is one of the ingredients.

I never really timed the sleep lines. But I can tell you that my manicurist noticed that my nails are stronger and longer. My hairdresser said my my hair was growing fast and is so healthy.

That was enough for me!

I guess if you really never paid attention to the sleep lines then it wasn't happening so prominently.

I initially researched this product for skin health. Many reviews were saying wrinkles and folds were disappearing, elasticity returning, face fuller, smooth skin, healthier skin (bumps and blemishes clearing up), etc.

But then I ran into all the other benefits such as healthy joints, which makes sense, since collagen creates cartilage. Hair and nail health as well.

So I thought to myself, wow what a great product for us lymies. People were seeing benefits after as quickly as 2-3 weeks. It make take a bit longer for us lymies since the bacteria is constantly destroying it.

Have any of you all experienced any negative side effects?
Posted 3/19/2016 3:05 PM (GMT 0)

blueberrymuffin said...
Has anybody taken gelatin that is used for cooking to have similar effect?
I heard it is good for connective tissue.

The two different kinds (soluble and gelatin) has the same effect and benefits. The only difference is how to consume. One can simply go in liquid and it dissolves fairly easily. The other you can cook with, put in hot foods, make jello. Though technically you can just "eat" both straight up (but there's no fun in that).

Yes collagen (if the product works well) repairs and regenerate connective tissues as well. Based on testimonies it's why joint pain greatly reduces or goes away completely and elasticity in skin returns.
Posted 3/19/2016 3:10 PM (GMT 0)

blueberrymuffin said...
Has anybody taken gelatin that is used for cooking to have similar effect?
I heard it is good for connective tissue.

Long, long before I got lyme I did Knox gelatin for my hair and nails. I just got out of the habit of doing it. You can buy it in serving packets. If you find the Great Lakes too expensive, go with the Knox unflavored gelatin. Still a good deal for us in replacing collagen in our bodies.
Posted 3/19/2016 3:21 PM (GMT 0)
I found the gelatin in the red can had a laxative effect for me when I added it to my morning organic oatmeal. I switched to the green can stuff and put that in my lunchtime smoothie.

Thrive Market charges a membership fee. They don't offer enough items that I buy to warrant me joining. I did the trial membership, though and got a free jar of organic coconut oil :) Vitacost does stuff that like routinely and $49 worth of products gets you free shipping.

I was taking 1000mg glycine at bedtime - sleep was always good those nights (my sleep is usually good). I'd begun to wonder if it was interfering with my T4 thyroid hormone I take at bedtime and stopped taking it. Maybe I'll find another time to take it. Suggestions anyone?

Um...dacarte, I am of the age that I don't care about my wrinkles anymore. As long as they continue to reflect the fact that I've tried to spend most of my life smiling, I've learned to accept them. But, if people are asking me if I've lost weight (I don't need to and have been the same weight for years) because of my face, then I wonder.
Posted 3/19/2016 7:04 PM (GMT 0)
Alright everyone,

Just had my first tablesppon of great lakes in my tea. Going to start with 1 tbs the first couple days and work my way up.

I hope it goes well and no unexpected bad side effects.

I'll provide an update in a few weeks.
Posted 3/19/2016 7:07 PM (GMT 0)
1 tbsp daily is Buhner's recommendation. How much are you planning on taking, dacarte?

(I know, though, that 2 tbsp of the green can Great Lakes is equivalent to 1 tbsp of the red can...which are you taking?)

Good luck!!
Posted 3/19/2016 7:08 PM (GMT 0)
I stumbled onto collagen peptides before ever being aware of having pathogens, etc. It was highly recommended for assisting to heal leaky gut. I use Vital Proteins brand (the blue cap)....had really good reviews (up there with Great Lakes brand) and at the time was more cost effective....but not sure if that is the case anymore. Love to hear if anyone else is using Vital Proteins collagen peptides...
Posted 3/19/2016 7:33 PM (GMT 0)

cd3764 said...
1 tbsp daily is Buhner's recommendation. How much are you planning on taking, dacarte?

(I know, though, that 2 tbsp of the green can Great Lakes is equivalent to 1 tbsp of the red can...which are you taking?)

Good luck!!

I've heard 1 tbsp is good enough. The recommended dose is 2 tbsp, but that might just be marketing to get you to run out of it faster.

But yes 2 tbsp is what I will work my way up too. I have both, but took the green.
Posted 3/19/2016 7:37 PM (GMT 0)

dacarte3 said...

Have any of you all experienced any negative side effects?

The only negative effect I have found with glycine (active ingredient in gelatin) was in metastatic cancer. This is an unusual situation that involves cellular transference and is really bad. Instead of using serine as its primary fuel, the tumor uses glycine. I wouldn't be overly concerned with this unless I already had cancer. Studies also show that glycine can prevent tumor growth. There are many studies showing the benefits of glycine. My personal opinion is that it is beneficial because it promotes a GI flora more conducive to good health.

Post Edited (Georgia Hunter) : 3/19/2016 1:43:23 PM (GMT-6)

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