Cannabis Oil

I use it , have been since November . Increased / better sleep right away , stomach issues a lot better , no major changes in any else yet

There have been a handful of posts on here about it as well. No one has healed using only cannabis oil from what I have seen/heard, but many find some good symptom relief with it. You should do a site search for those posts. Some of them were pretty informative.

I would assume that you would need a MM license to be legal in those states that allow it's use. I live in a state where MM is not legal (yet), so I'm afraid to even try ordering any as I don't want to have everything I own confiscated until they decide it's okay for me to have even the hemp oil. Besides, I'm not convinced that hemp oil will work.

In his new Lyme book, Buhner lists Cannabinoid oil (I suspect it's the same as Cannabis oil) to help with Lyme arthritis.

As Traveler mentioned, there are threads on here about it and it's sometimes referred to as CBD oil.

While I cannot vouch for the products, it seems the members discussing it often bought their CBD oil here:

/www.bluebird-botanicals.com/

It's not the same as medical marijuana and it looks like just about anyone can buy it from the above-linked site. The site has a LOT of information.

Actually, CBD (Cannabidiol) is one of at least 85 active cannabinoids identified in cannabis. The healing oils that everyone is talking about does have THC in it. Read about Rick Simpson's oil. THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) is required for it to do the healing that is needed for cancer patients, so I assume that's what's needed for any other patient looking to use it for their healing as well.

phoenixtears.ca/natures-answer-for-cancer/

/www.facebook.com/ricksimpsonofficial/posts/514874765226334

I know 2 people using Charolettes Web for Lyme seizures. Works great. I don't know that it is touted as some sort of cure though?

project said...
I ingest or vaporize Cannabis oil after one of these treatments as it really feels like it helps signal the right pathways to clean up the mess.

It should be noted that vaporizing will only have a palliative effect on symptoms; the way cannabinoids are absorbed by the lungs keeps them from having any of the antimicrobial effects on a cellular level. Ingestion is the way to go for that. Also, I agree with you that you need both THC and CBD -- really full spectrum of cannabinoids, actually. That's the consensus based on everything I've read, and my new Lyme-centric doctor concurred.

That said, rather than the oil, I prepare a daily edible from lightly decarboxylated cannabis flower. I mix it with 2 tbsp crunchy peanut butter and 1 tbsp olive oil.

However, I actually found out a couple days ago about the protomyxzoa co-infection which I seem to have a lot of symptoms of. I'd never heard of it before then.

At first I panicked because I've been eating this daily peanut butter and olive oil, and fat is supposed to feed this organism, which then shelters the co-infections beneath its biofilms. But the thing is, I've been getting steadily better for months. And there are actually very effective liposomal products, like Artemisinin Essentials from the Hopkinton pharmacy, which basically use proto's affinity for fat as a Trojan Horse to deliver the anti-microbials.

So what occurred to me is that my peanut butter concoction might be doing exactly the same thing: delivering active microbe-killing cannabinoids right to the front door. I'm no chemist but I'd imagine that once the cannabinoids and fat molecules are bound together by heat, any attempt by the microbes to utilize those fats would result in their being exposed to the cannabinoids as well.

This would actually explain why I, personally, get my most massive Herxes after the onset of the cannabis (my preparation is psychoactive). Apparently protomyxzoa in particular causes massive Herxheimers when under attack, so that might be exactly what's happening.

Note that I went for almost 12 years without treatment due to a misdiagnosis, and at 3.5 months in now I've seen miraculous levels of improvement. I'm doing 100 mg of doxy and a combo of Cowden and Buhner herbs as well, plus things like reishi mushroom, oregano oil, milk thistle, and more. I was also turned on to liposomal glutathione which made me feel pretty good. Low glutathione is an issue that virtually all of us have.

But really the only thing I'm doing differently than most people is the cannabis. And I do know people who've taken the oil as part of a more comprehensive protocol, but still were never cured. So now I'm starting to wonder if it really is my unique preparation that's doing the trick. Food for thought!

thank you DaveNJ41 for this post.
It's a very interesting topic.
I'm wondering dbl219 what 'decarboxylated' cannabis flower is? Has it undergone some
process? Do you get it from a dispencery? It sounds like you may grow your own.
I am just now looking into this and thank you everyone for all the helpful
information.

Dancing Dawn said...
thank you DaveNJ41 for this post.
It's a very interesting topic.
I'm wondering dbl219 what 'decarboxylated' cannabis flower is? Has it undergone some
process? Do you get it from a dispencery? It sounds like you may grow your own.
I am just now looking into this and thank you everyone for all the helpful
information.

Cannabis flower is just the clinical term for what people colloquially call "bud." Basically, fresh smoking material. You should be able to acquire it from any dispensary. And yes, actually the "decarboxylation" is the process. I'll try to give a quick explanation.

Basically, THC, CBD, and other cannabinoids aren't absorbed by the body in their natural form due to a molecular carboxyl group attached -- it blocks the cannabinoids from being received by the body's receptors.

The main way to remove this carboxyl group is exposure to heat. That's why smoking makes cannabinoids available for absorption. However, if you're going to ingest it for medicinal purposes, then you want to "decarboxylate" first.

It's very important to note that cannabinoids activate at different temperatures. I believe THC activates around 220-240°F whereas CBD activates between 260-280°F. And yet, as temperatures rise, the THC also starts to evaporate. So how you decarboxylate is directly related to the concentrations of the different cannabinoids present afterward.

Since I also vape for symptom relief in the evenings, I simply use that as my decarboxylation. There's been a great deal of debate over temperatures and durations, but I just recommend you experiment until you find a preparation that seems to make you Herx -- just make sure you combine it with the rest of your protocol. Basically just stick some fresh cannabis in your vape, enjoy, and then save that ABV ("Already Been Vaped") to use in a medicinal preparation. I've found this to be the most cost effective method.

For reference, a THC-heavy decarb will have a healthy emerald-gold color. A CBD-heavy decarb will be more golden-chestnut, but should still appear robust. And anything that starts to look a solid brown means you've vaped it too much -- it's still usable, just not as potent. Temperatures higher than 300°F have proven very effective at decarboxylation when used for very short durations, so I use a pretty standard 360°F vaporizer temperature. I take between 500-600 mg in one dose a day, but I'm 6'2" and 200 lbs, and also an experienced cannabis user. And even that much can be pretty intense for me.

Another great tip is to make sure you use a regular grinder to get a somewhat coarse grind. That way there's less surface area when you vaporize.

Then, when you use the ABV, smash it up finely with a spoon or something before you make your preparation -- you'll find that a very golden-looking ABV suddenly starts to look much more green and THC-heavy. And when you do the actual preparation you do want as much surface area as possible.

cd3764 said...
Welcome dbl219!!!

Sorry for the reason you're here but glad you found us.

And, thanks for such an informative post! Most importantly, I'm happy that you're finding relief with your treatments!! Kudos to you for the research you obviously did!

If there's anything we can help you with, please let us know.

Thanks much! I certainly will. I actually just started the LDN myself, had headaches the first few days, lowered my dose and then built back up to the 5 mg my doc wanted me on. Now I tolerate it really well.

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