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Posted 4/15/2016 9:23 PM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone, I am so down and lost. Having fought lyme for over a year and gotten better just the past 2 - 3 months - now i suddenly fell of a cliff. Severe insomnia, muscle spasms, pain in the teeth - PRESSURE in my whole body. it CRACKS< CLICKS POPS in my eardrums.
I have cramp in my arches. Cry a lot.
small sand like break outs all over my forehead and along my hairline and jaw.
IS THIS BART? or has my lyme just come back with a vengeance - while i am taking tons of abx, herbs and supps???

so down i want to end it. I dont sleep at all. exhausted, weak and sick - and I dont know what i am fighting anymore.
Posted 4/15/2016 9:51 PM (GMT 0)
So sorry to hear, swede!

Arch pain is a symptom of bartonella - and the break-outs on your skin could be, too.

Did you only treat for Lyme?
If I were you, I would look into bartonella treatment.

Don't give up..please! just try to remember how you felt the past couple of months when you were better than you are now...you will get there again.

Hang in there!
Posted 4/15/2016 9:59 PM (GMT 0)
Don't you give up! We all have those downs that are so deep and then we just climb back up.

Hugs of comfort going your way.
Posted 4/15/2016 10:51 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Swede -
I am so sorry - you sound miserable.

I mentioned this before but I'll mention it again:
"pain in the teeth - PRESSURE in my whole body. it CRACKS<CLICKS POPS in my eardrums. Cry a lot. small sand like break outs all over my forehead and along my hairline and jaw. exhausted, weak and sick"

These are classic yeast/fungal overgrowth signs. The pain in teeth (sinus) and pops in the ear (throat) and breakouts all over forehead and along hairline - yeast/fungal growing in and on the head. Y/f can cause muscle pain and exhaustion and depression. I had ALL of these sx and more and they were addressed w/ antifungals.

I think we might have already talked about it but let's be sure - are you on abx? If yes, are you on a strong anti fungal? If not, you need to be and you should hit the y/f fast and hard with a systemic Rx. You don't have to be on it forever, but you need to kick the y/f fast and hard and then once it is under control you can transition to maintenance w/ more natural antifungals. I can share more but want to make sure I'm on the right page.

Also, I just read something that reminded me that some lyme protocols have a side benefit of suppressing Bart, which helps you deal with one infection at a time. But once you stop the lyme protocol, it can trigger a strong Bart relapse. Has your protocol changed at all?

-p

Post Edited (Pirouette) : 4/15/2016 5:23:27 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/15/2016 11:02 PM (GMT 0)
I had a similar situation treating lyme/babesia and can't shake some symptoms then 1 year into abx treatment we try and go after bart with rfiampin/cipro and BAM i develop chest palpitations, lymph node swelling and numbness in extremities. I'm thinking I've been treating with various abx combos for a year where the heck has bart been hanging out in the tunnel waiting to get on the ice?

I'm worse now than ever and I was getting better. As Pirouette said could be yeast which is fairly easy to test a reaction for but if its bart you should go after it directly. Rifampin is the Tier 1 choice for hitting it if you have a reaction its a good indication you have it. Nastiest of the critters if you ask me but you can get well just have to take it slow and steady.
Posted 4/15/2016 11:19 PM (GMT 0)
hi swede, I suggest you to do a lot of detox, it will certainly help you
Posted 4/17/2016 2:54 AM (GMT 0)
Sorry to hear about your experience. I've been going through similar symptoms in the last few months. The main thing that helps right now is benadryl (diphenhydramine). Doctor has just suggested low histamine diet and I'm heading into that program slowly. The person suggesting candida overgrowth could be right, but it could instead be an allergic reaction to a normal quantity of candida. Also if you can tolerate things which can calm nerves, like gabapentin or nortriptylene or diazepam, small quantities of these things can help you with the roughest times. I'd suggest making time to rest and relax before taking on the next battle, whether that is bartonella or candida or something else. Part of my recent issue was just some plain old dental cavities that needed filling, so be sure and see a dentist if you haven't already.
Posted 4/17/2016 3:00 AM (GMT 0)
P.S. Also recommend Arnica gel topical ointment and good shoe insoles (possibly even from a podiatrist) to help with the arch pain.
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