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Posted 6/10/2016 1:32 PM (GMT 0)
I've heard a lot about gene mutations. I don't know for sure that I have any, but I think that I might based on the fact that I have a pretty good detox regimen but still have symptoms of die-off. For example, brain fog is my worst symptom- I can't shake it, and my muscles (arms especially) have been getting progressively weaker over the last 10 months through treatment.

What do people do if they have a gene mutation? Is there anything one can do, or is it just all the more important to use a variety of detox methods?

For detox I...

Drink warm lemon water throughout the day and especially at night
Milk Thistle capsules
Dry brush before shower
Hepatatone Plus

What else can I easily incorporate into my day? I hate baths...
Posted 6/10/2016 1:59 PM (GMT 0)
Kickin,

I don't know a lot about gene mutations, but I do know a lot of people who have been tested by the 23andMe DNA test for gene mutations and have found out a lot of information on why they aren't getting results from different methods. If you have that done you can then find out through Genetic Genie what the results mean in terms of getting well.

For Detox, you could add in an Epsom Salt foot bath. I also use Detox tea by Yogi, Alkaseltzer Gold and Activated Charcoal (Make sure you take this at least two hours before and after any other med) Kind of a pain but it ushers out the toxins really well.

Others will chime in soon that may know more about the gene mutations.
Posted 6/10/2016 2:26 PM (GMT 0)
There have been some posts on this in the past. I forget the term, but not all mutations are neccesarily turned "On" or "Off".

Many try to correct, but its difficult since they work in sequence with other parts of loops.


MTHFR is an important one, some have luck with supplimenting it, some dont have luck.

As far as liver detox phase I and II mutations, those are very important, since you wont detox as well no matter how much detox herbs you do. I have this and used D-limonene, seldome written about, its the best detox for this condition.

There are a couple people here who are good at this stuff.
Posted 6/10/2016 5:19 PM (GMT 0)
To be honest, most of us don't do enough to help our bodies detox - I know I don't. I should go on a full scale attack to get my body to detox, but instead I fit in what I can each day and sometimes struggle due to it.

I have not had any of the gene mutation testing done, although I do seem to have the same kind of issues as those that do - so I figured it was best for me to assume that I did and work to get my body to detox much better. You can find some really good detoxing suggestions in the "New to Lyme?" thread that sits at the top of the forum:
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=1606610

And this is another good list of possible detoxing routines: http://www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

Personally, I LOVE things that help me detox in more than one way, or at least do two or more things at the same time. That's why I love dry skin brushing and apple cider vinegar. The dry skin brushing moves lymph fluid along, and removes the top layer of dead skin so that our skin can not only breathe better, but push more toxins out. Apple cider vinegar - for me - acts as digestive enzymes and helps detoxing the whole body.

I also drink Yogi Detox tea daily - It's easy and if it's a hot day, just cool and add ice!!

The foot soaks are easy to fit in most any part of the day when a person is home and sitting still for just 20 minutes.

While a bit of a pain to find time to fit it in, an excellent detox thing is to use a binder, like activated charcoal. You have to be sure to keep it 2 hours away from any food, supplements, medicinal teas, tinctures or anything else you do wish your body to utilize, or it will bind to those things and remove them from the body as well. So you have to have a 4 hour block of time where you aren't taking anything, and then take it right in the middle. Since I'm almost always up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom though, I generally fit it in there when I need it. Do be aware that it can cause increased issues with constipation if you don't drink plenty of water with it. A minimum of 8 ounces is required.

Other things I do to help my body detox well: making sure my bowels moved at least once a day (sorry if it's TMI!) pushing myself to drink at least 64 ounces of lemon water each and every day, liver/gall bladder flushes (all natural), oil pulling, Taking alpha lipoic acid, ginger, turmeric and keeping the amount of stress in my life at a bare minimum. I may have missed one or two things though!
Posted 6/10/2016 7:04 PM (GMT 0)
It can get pretty complicated. I did some pretty extensive looking into gene mutations, after having the 23 and Me testing done, running my results through the 3rd party analysis groups, and learning that I'm victim to a few of them.

There's a lot to it. People typically look to just the MTHFR or CBS genes, but there's a ton of them that play a part in the methylation cycle, and just focusing on one or two could prove a waste of time and/or even be damaging.

But, my mind, memory, all that, it isn't so hot, so I wouldn't be able to do it much justice.

Just take a look at this site:
http://www.heartfixer.com/AMRI-Nutrigenomics.htm

You don't even have to read any of the information (I would not blame you), just take in how thick of a topic methylation is. I feel that methylation is a huge issue for me, but I have given up on it for the moment. I've got a basic plan of action for my particular defects, supplements involved, etc. That's it. I can't handle anymore.

But, really, in your situation, I wouldn't do much, apart from make sure you're on a good multivitamin, supplementing for any possible vitamin and mineral deficiencies, etc. A good form of B12 and L-MTHF (might want to do a bit of reading on these to make sure you're getting the right type of B12 and proper dosages).

See, that's the thing, to really have an idea as to what's going on and what/how you can treat IN DEPTH, you're gonna need some testing, otherwise, again, it could just be a waste of time or you could aggravate certain portions of the cycle by supplementing with things that aren't needed. These gene defects don't always mean a lack of something, could be an overabundance.

So, yeah, for now, just go with the basics I mentioned, and detox your butt off, as Trav indicated.

I only care about methylation, because I feel it plays a big part in my multiple chemical sensitivity issues.

If not for that, I wouldn't even think about it, just detox.
Posted 6/10/2016 10:55 PM (GMT 0)
Sod and ozone dont mix ,cbs and sulfa dont mix ,and mthfr and everthing dont mix ...it is helpful...i was sceptic and mtfhr in new zeland helped some
Posted 6/12/2016 11:32 PM (GMT 0)
I am not familiar with the Apple cider detox?
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