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Post Edited (1000Daisies) : 5/12/2021 4:30:45 PM (GMT-6)

I believe Hawthorne is good for the heart.

I've had increased palps and more recently aching pressure at the start of my exercise. Also, seems my heart rate is running high at 130 with somewhat low bp. I wake up with shaking in my chest which I suspect is heart racing. I recently had echocardiagram but haven't gotten results. Another test would be a stress test.

Daisies, I am bumping this for more views. Not as many see it in the day!

1000Daisies, this sounds exactly like what I'm struggling with atm.
I find that it get's worse when I lay down in my bed at night. I also had a moment of panic two nights ago when I started to get swallowing issues. It lasted for only a few seconds each time, but was scary. I've had swallowing issues before, but this was different. It was like my throat was paralyzed.
When all this stuff is at it's worst, it feels like I'm about to faint.

I'm not sure what it is, but until I have talked to my llmd I have decided to stop all IV abx and only take low dose oral. If it is a side effect I think it is from either doxy or rifampicin.

You could be experiencing a bartonella herxheimer reaction.

Before I knew I had bartonella, I assumed my heart issues were related to perimenopause. At least that's what my PCP and endocrinologist told me. Rapid resting heart rate, breathlessness when climbing stairs (this is in someone who was a training athlete), palpitations during the day, periods of hard pounding at night, feelings of weak heart beat (especially at night) when I would feel like my heart had stopped. This usually resulted in a panic attack and feelings of imminent death - scary!

Both Holter monitor and ultrasound evaluations revealed nothing out of the ordinary. So the diagnosis was that it was all in my head. I was offered beta blockers which I refused.

In researching the frequent estrogen dominance of perimenopause I decided to use low dose bioidentical progesterone cream which ended up helping the heart issues significantly. However, they were still present to some extent.

It wasn't until I began treating both K and myself with Buhner's herbs for bartonella that they completely resolved. With hawthorne (we used Nature'sWay initially and are now using a tincture) and CoQ10 I saw immediate improvements over and above bioidentical progesterone alone.

Houttuynia did cause some herxing issues with heart involvement again, but by that time I knew what to expect; and that I wasn't going to die. A decrease in dosage resolved those problems.

My heart is now super! No issues at all. Really strong with normal accelerations and decelerations with exercise and rest. No palps or pounding.

It will get better as you treat, just watch for herxes and if you experience them decrease dosage (or in your case amount of time spent in the chamber).

Yes, you have to go low and slow with progesterone as well. If you are estrogen dominant to begin with (that means all estrogen receptors are occupied and there is not enough progesterone to balance them), the addition of progesterone will result in the release of some estrogen back into the blood stream as progesterone balances the receptors.

This may initially lead to more estrogen dominance symptoms (whatever they are for you - swelling, painful breasts, depression, water retention etc.), but this should resolve after a while. Here is a good site with lots of info on bioidentical progesterone:

www.progesteronetherapy.com/

www.progesteronetherapy.com/estrogen-dominance.html#sthash.k3SYYneM.dpbs

This site does recommend larger dosages of progesterone to minimize the length of time it takes to rebalance estrogen/progesterone. I always tend towards low and slow. You will get there.

Sorry, but it has been so long since I started the cream that I don't remember how bad my estrogen dominance symptoms were. But I do remember that within 20 minutes of my first application my heart stopped bothering me so much - it was such a relief.

Try cut and paste.

i've had heart issues since oct of last year. it really got bad when i started treating bart by using rifampin/cipro. i also have babs and lyme so who knows what i actually stirred up with these 2 powerful antibiotics. i get what i call chest pounding. you can see my chest move as it seems the heart is pounding harder than normal. funny thing is my blood pressure and heart rate are normal during such times. this comes and goes as i've had it for a few minutes to times i've had it constantly for days.

it's been 5 months and its still going on. when i introduce new medicines/herbs that are effective against whatever bug(s) are causing it it gets worse so i back down and then up when it gets muted.

once again unsure if its bart, babs, lyme or a combination of them.

i'm using knotweed 1 dropper 2x/day. did try hawthorne but had a bad reaction to it so stopped.

1000Daisies said...
k07 - did you get your results from the echo yet?

Krimpet - how about your results today?

I am waiting for the Hawthorn to come in (on order). I talked to my family's LLMD (I have my first apptmnt with him in fall) and my GP. The LLMD thinks it may be cardiac lyme, says to stop the HBOT (hard chamber), and get an event monitor. I saw my GP, and he agreed that it may be cardiac lyme. I have an event monitor for 24hours. I suspect that it's going to show normal. I feel better (heart-wise), which is why I don't think it will show anything (unless I restart up HBOT again, which I'm not inclined to do at this point until I get more information).

I'll start the Hawthorn (tincture) as soon as I get it.

1000Daisies- I did have my appointment today. The EKG was fine. I go back on the 8th for more testing. I'm going to do a stress test, echocardiogram, and wear another heart monitor for 2 weeks ( since it was November when I wore it before).

Ever consider organic high-selenium yeast for the excess toxins, anti-inflammatory and anti-viral properties? Interestingly, a large clinical trial on healthy Swedish senior citizens showed incredible effects on cardioprotection from combined ubiquinone and selenium supplementation. Maybe a hawthorne, ubiquinone and selenium cocktail could be an answer?

I wore the monitor for 2 weeks.

I have the Buhner books as well, but I still think the website contains good information. In fact, I could not find all that I was looking for on Stephania in the book so I went to the website.

I also do coq10 and selenium. I've been on selenium for about a year and coq10 since March.

I'm going to have a long list of things to discuss with my doctor tomorrow 😊.

I've read mix reviews about oxygen and babesia which I know I have. It's supposed to make things worse for some people. I think I may believe it.

I would not get myself all worked up. I would get it checked out. The good news is that COq10 has been shown to significantly improve heart ailments, including heart failure. Also have you ever had your coq10 levels checked? Mine are very high and my doctor says that's where you want them. Have your doc check your coq10 levels?