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Posted 7/7/2016 3:48 PM (GMT 0)
Understanding that we are not providing medical advice to each other, I am requesting help interpreting my IGeneX Lyme test.

The following bands were positive or IND; negatives have been excluded:

IGENEX IgM

** 31 kDa IND
** 41 kDa IND

IGENEX IgG

** 31 kDa IND
** 41 kDa ++

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The test read out is coded as overall NEGATIVE, however I've read that many Lyme patients have suppressed immune systems which can potentially skew results. I would say that my case is chronic as it now reaches over 8 years in duration. Could this be a false negative, or perhaps subtle indication of Lyme or co-infection? Please let me know your thoughts and if you've had any similar experiences with testing.
Posted 7/7/2016 4:15 PM (GMT 0)
At the bottom of your Igenex test it will read:

Diagnosis should not be based on laboratory rests alone. Results should be interpreted in conjunction with clinical symptoms and patient history.

I find this blurb every important.

For interpretation of the bands there are 2 places to turn for interpretation that I have seen on this forum.

One place is the New To Lyme? .... Start Here!

and the other place is www.reocities.com/HotSprings/Oasis/6455/western-blot.txt

There are slight difference in band descriptions on the above references.

I am not a doctor and will not tell you based on that test if you have lyme or not. But based on your previous posts, it is very suspicious that you have lyme due to your symptoms. Band 31 is specific for borelia burgdoferi. You did not test positive in the Ingenex lab scientist's eyes, but he did see something on that band, it was not strong enough to be a positive for Bb.
Posted 7/7/2016 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
Hey Study.

IgM means early or current infection
IgG means prolonged exposure

31 is the Outer Surface Protein A, and is lyme specific.
41 is the flagellin protein of all spirochetes.

Are you taking antibiotics? I had a very similar result, however I had been on doxycycline and ended a few weeks before the blood draw. My LLND believed that this caused my test results to not show as strongly as they should have. She also believes that it is possible I do not have lyme but a wack of other infections from the bite that she is narrowing down. This may be your case as well. Hope this helps!

This is why lyme is usually a clinical diagnoses. Have you considered seeing an LLMD/LLND?
Posted 7/7/2016 4:30 PM (GMT 0)
So, so true Asmoline. You can have a crap load of other infections, but no lyme. Personally, I think that may be my case, but the herbs that I am taking pretty much hit on most of them. The thing is if you can get that main infection down, the others are sometimes easier to tackle. Often these viruses/bacteria feed off (not literally) one another to survive. Meaning if the dominant infection keeps the terrain liveable, they are all happy. Once we start to crush that, the less stronger ones simply begin to retreat and fall off. They can't survive.
Posted 7/9/2016 5:00 AM (GMT 0)

Asmoline said...


Are you taking antibiotics?

I took doxycycline about 2 years ago for a 10 day trial and was miserably ill during the entire course. Aside from that, I took 2 day's dose of Cipro which also left me feeling so ill that I discontinued it; that was about 1 year ago. I have otherwise not used any antibiotics, biologics, or NSAIDs in over a year. Again, if this is lyme, I would assume that it is well into the chronic stage which has greatly compromised my immune system.

How do you treat lime or other co-infections if you cannot identify the strain or bug?

Thanks for the replies and your thoughts!
Posted 7/9/2016 6:13 AM (GMT 0)
You treat based on symptoms and response to treatment.

For instance, a LLMD may prescribe antibiotics that target lyme as your first protocol (and that will often eradicate the co's ehrlichia and anaplasmosis). As you go through lyme treatment, some symptoms may not resolve...and you may get new symptoms. Treatment will change to target the co-infection that has come to the forefront. This will be based on symptoms.

Often it is trial and error, and protocols are switched several times to figure it out.

Not all LLMD's will treat lyme first. If they feel your dominant symptoms are one of the co-infections - then they might choose to treat that infection first.

Treatment varies from Dr. to Dr.
Posted 7/9/2016 6:57 AM (GMT 0)
Look under microscopy 1000x ..even lightfield. ..you can see the ketes ...or pay for fancy culture ..consider rife ,bvt ,herbs ,silver ,essential oils ,nosodes and iv abx .and hbot ..,read burrascano's and mitchels rant on md junction. ..there is a thread on other forum to find microscopist via state unless you are in mine

band 41 means flagella ..lots of bugs have flagella but not good ones ..ie bart ,proto,,leptospirosis, syphilis borrelia as there are hundreds of species ..

congratuadolences. ..welcome ...dont wait for curza 99
i had two neg western blots ,neg elisa and a false positive absolute after provoking with samento ,banderol iv h202 ..ketes were there plain as day in blood stream

the sarcastic cynic in me wants to say maybe you just got floxed ..but i didntbwant to belive it either wasted precious months

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 7/9/2016 1:07:06 AM (GMT-6)

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