Endocannabinoid System - Cannabis and Lymes

Hi All:

Just wanted to share this link. I have seen people asking about Cannabis,if it is a good medicine that helps. Just like lymes disease go check out the medical details and decide for your self. If you decide to use, please please study and talk to people who know (a medical dispensary will help you). I Find help and relief by using small amounts.

emedicine.medscape.com/article/1361971-overview


Plus there is alot more info out there. This is just not smoking a joint in the 70s for fun. Not even to get that high feeling. I find it now a help for this disease with both CBD1 and CBD2 in the system.

Please share thoughts of what you may find on the scientific data and then dealing with lymes.

Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 9/6/2016 8:06:33 AM (GMT-6)

Cannabis never really helped my symptoms though it did keep me sane at points. I find i can not tolerate it during a relapse though. Last time I took CBD oil I had pain in my testicles and that was the end of that.

The oil doesn't do much topically for pain and such, that's where ingesting it changes everything. Using cannabis is very scientific now though and if using a dispensary, that has highly experienced people working, they can direct you to what doses and types would be most likely to help without unwanted "side effects" like being 'high' or anything else usually.

Good points.

Scientific Info on Cannabis : Yes alot.

Yes, there is a ton of scientific studies on Cannabis. The link above will give an intro. Also tell you if it is legal in your state. Maybe start there to begin. I dont know where everybody lives that visits the forum so check first what you can do legally.

CBD Oil:
Yes, CBD that I have, is to ingest, rubbing on the kind of CBD I take for ingestion doesn't have an impact. It is made to ingest. But...

But and there is always a "but" there are topical CBD products, I dont use them, but I have been studying and the have found amazing help for babies with major issues with topical CBD. I have to dig for that info again...interesting stuff. Its legal in California and buy off the shelf at a good health foods store. Edible CBD I use is also legal, my LLMD sells it to me.

Edibles and Dispensary Question:
I started off smoking, vape pins and I use edibles, that are very helpful for me, but be very careful with an edible, go to a dispensary and ask them to explain how much to eat. You have to start very low. But ask the experts at the shop. I use 25 mg of THC every 4 hours, but I have built up a tolerance. I started with 10 mg as a newbie. Be sure to know what you put in your body just like anything else a Lyme patient would do. Make sure the edibles are labeled with the % of THC. But ask the experts and look on line for info, its there, just dig. Go easy. If you have friend that use ask them for help. Also please study THC, I will provide more links later.

Yes there are dispensaries that will help guide you. You can find one in your area, if your area has legal for Medical Use in your state or county google cannabis dispensaries.

For example see
/weedmaps.com/earth/us/ca

which is in the area I live in S. CA. Cut and paste in the link, I forget how to share a link.

This is the area I live in in S. CA. You will find choices on doctors for your license (and do get one if you are using). Reviews of dispensary and the cannabis.

To get your Medical Lisc for where I live in CA it is simple and costed under $60 If I recall. For me it took about an hour. We (my wife and I) walked in all nervous.

Doctor asked me my issues, current meds and if safe for me to use. All good, got me a lisc and did my first buy, in my life (yikes, yes I am a 55 year old pot virgin). ha ha ha .So it has been a real blessing for me..

Hope this is useful info for all. Feel free to email if questions suggestion etc, I am trying to learn and I will share more as I learned.

My brain is dead for now...all the best, Scubaboy Please forgive my typos, brains not to with it. Off to Detox and sleep.

Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 9/6/2016 8:07:37 AM (GMT-6)

Scubaboy - in your signature - it says doxycycline 20 mg 2 a day - should that be 200 mg?


You're familiar with Dr. Murakami and Dr. Eva Sapi 's interest in CBD oil (hemp)?

They have been doing research together on CBD oil for lyme treatment.
There number of testimonials are growing....people who have not responded to the conventional treatment(s) are having success.

This is the high CBD and low THC form. I did try it for a couple of months...but stopped...I didn't have any positive results...and it was burning my esophagus...(sublingual form)
I probably should have stuck it out for another month at least...

Hi Girlie and Traveler, thanks for the feedback, I will need to re-learn the way to provide a hyperlink.

Hi Girlie, thanks for asking you remember me, the 20 mg 2x was correct. He, LLMD, started abx low on purpose and focus on using the IVs. That treatment was too much, so we stopped killing and a major detox focus now until I feel better.

Yes, you pointed out a side effect of highly concentrated CBD when taken orally. It will give a burning feeling in your throat, if you take it "raw", straight out of the tube or tincture. So there are many different ways to ingest. I use sublingal but its a lower CBD amount. For me on the high dosages, I warm CBD oil with coconut oil and then to just drink it down/leave in my mouth for a bit, works great for me. Second I've heard is you can buy the empty capsules and make up your own pills. Then just take with your supplements. Too much work for me so I have not tried it.

I have been using www.cannavest.com "Plus CBD Oil Gold Formula Oral". Pricing looks high but this has been the best CBD oil I have found. I take 250 mg of the oil that is the total plant (Hemp not Cannabis) and 60 mg of CBD per day. I want to increase but $s limit. That is using the 10 mg Golden Applicator. But they have pills too. Check it out, lots of good info and products there on CBD specifically. I dont find dispensary will sell this but you can buy on line or I purchased from my LLMD.

This is again for states that allow CBD oils, again not all do.

Dr. Murakami and Dr. Eva Sapi 's interest in CBD oil, no I will check them out, thank you.

Thanks again guys you are the best!

Aloha Scubaboy

Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 9/6/2016 1:19:27 PM (GMT-6)

Thanks again Girlie!

I found Dr Murakami on the web, will read more.

In the search I found a statement:

"Cannabis and Coconut Oil

Medical marijuana capsules infused in coconut oil are an alternative way to therapeutically use cannabis without having to inhale it through smoking. Infusing cannabis into coconut oil also allows for easy entry into the liver where it can be rapidly processed.

Coconut oil is used because of its high amount of essential fatty acids which makes it a good binding agent for the cannabinoids. Not to mention its amazing health properties. Half of the fat in coconut oil is comprised of a fat that is not frequently found in nature, lauric acid."

I found that quote at www.thealternativedaily.com coconut-oil-cannabis-medical-miracle from a Susan Patterson.

Thanks for the input, greatly appreciate it!

Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 9/6/2016 1:20:05 PM (GMT-6)

NQA -I think the high CBD, low THC is legal in most of the States now.



/www.bluebird-botanicals.com/hemp-faq/

Here is a good link israel-cannabis.com/re-education

Lots of good information on Cannabis.

The professor that started THC research in Israel /youtu.be/csbJnBKqwIw

Watch this video it blows my mind, I feel a bit cheated, I should have been using sooner.

Have a great day I hae to go detox...Aloha

Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 9/7/2016 3:49:25 PM (GMT-6)

Thanks Girlie, perfect!

Hi All,

up for air from a really bad herx or flame up or ???? but, still fighting my way through, I am told now by many that I am "complicated" , seems like a badge of honor, but we all know that it is not...oh I am being way to serious today...forgive me.... Yes the Neuro symptoms are bad ( I can type today which is a miracle and online) So a Cannabis update from my experience and purely for dealing with the issues of Lyme (or other friends) that I have found to help Me

Crazy you say that I can smoke cannabis and feel clearer in my mind...hmmm I shall see.

Neuro issue - I have bad seizures/spasms, cant talk, cant connect words, etc, neuro - Smoking about 1 ounce of an indica strain as needed I find clears my mind. Also I can type, I talk better, very calming, lowers anxiety, which is key for me right now, to have no stress.

Show on AWE, called, "Medical Marijuana Miracle Cure" 3 episodes. Number of examples of people with brain issues or just look on the web. They show and suggest that THC is helping people with Nuero symptoms. Hmmm...I have to dig deeper. But for me it helps.

So to wrap this up it helps me with:

Positives:

-Anxiety
-Depression
-Pain
-Nausea

-GI lower and upper - reduced cramping and less constipation. Even with Charcoal.

-Eating - I have a hard time eating - so I can eat now!!!

-Lungs - I have clear phlem I am now coughing up, so it helps to open up my lungs to cough out the chest congestion.

Negatives:

My wonderful Lyme supporting superstar Wife is not happy about all the smoke. So finding better ventilation asap.

-Cost - Its reasonable, in my area $15 an ounce will help a great deal. But I am way sick, need to watch $s, but its one of those expensive natural remedies that cost more. Next step, when I am better is to grow plants, then my medicine is in my garden, very cool!!!

-People's opinion - Since this is a touchy subject I have found with many people that they dont see things the way that I do about this flower. It is like Lyme disease issues, complicated and not all people understand it. But thats cool, it is not a medicine for everyone. But I have found with people who love you and know your level of agony will understand and support the good things in life that help. My wife that hates the smoke... is the most supportive of me to smoke due to this illness.

-The High - For me, that feeling is gone. So now it is not a negative at all. And if I did it would not be a bad thing for me.

All for now...comments , thoughts, suggestions???

Off to detox...:-/

Oh, my treatment below, I stopped for now. I am way to sick I am told. So now Detox and hunt for LLMDs.

Take care and hang in there!!!

And know you can survive this battle against those dang bacteria!!! which is a statement I need to put on the ceiling some days ;-)

Scubaboy are you mixing up grams and ounces? An ounce is a huge amount to smoke.

I already sleep way too much....I really do not need a sleeping aid like for some is cannabis....
I need more of a energy jolt... funny my kid and some friends always tell me cannabis is the cure for everything. I am sure it helps with many things. However I could never smoke even a straw as I never smoked in my life. Not going to start now.
However I heard that hemp oil extract might help with brain alertness. That would be different to ingest it as a medicine or herb.