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BHD148
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Posted 9/21/2016 9:09 PM (GMT 0)
I have treated for 9 Months and come a long way. No abx. Ozone, some herbals, vitamins, supportive supplements. However, Within the past 6 weeks I get these awful attacks. Sometimes they last 3 or so days. Then Ill get a break for a few days and then it comes flooding back. At first it felt like a severe hunger, like my body was raging for something. (I was physically full) It would cause me to feel flush and really mentally out of it. Im talking I was so weak from these episodes. Then it moved in to a severely thirsty, brain doing crazy things, jolting awake at night. And then it goes away like it never happened. Now its back. We ran blood tests and everything came back normal. Doing one more to test ADH.
What does this sound like? Sometimes I will feel static-y in my legs, cotton brain, and severe moodiness during these times.
I just started rehydration drops to help, I am so uncomfortable while this crud is happening ): It was so nice to have a 4 day break. Now its back.
I am on Argentyn 23 daily for lyme. I am highly sensitive so just upped to 1/2 tsp twice a day. And I am suppose to add in Artemisinin 100mg for babesia and work up. But I'm afraid to start the Art with how bad I herded last time on top of this issues.
Girlie
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Posted 9/21/2016 9:19 PM (GMT 0)
I'm wondering if it is Babesia symptoms.
BHD148
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Posted 9/21/2016 9:21 PM (GMT 0)
I am wondering the same thing. Like right now I feel so out of it, and like my body is screaming for something. Its just crazy Ive never heard anyone say this as a symptom but we can't find anything else wrong to cause it! Im assuming its not major since its not 24/7... Like this morning I was perfectly fine. Super tired but nothing out of the ordinary. Then it hits me.
Girlie
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Posted 9/21/2016 10:03 PM (GMT 0)
Have you just been treating lyme so far?
BHD148
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Posted 9/21/2016 10:05 PM (GMT 0)
Yes I have. My symptom list has gone from 35-40 symptoms to about
5-6 I think.
Girlie
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Posted 9/21/2016 10:29 PM (GMT 0)
BHD148 said...
Yes I have. My symptom list has gone from 35-40 symptoms to about
5-6 I think.
Oh wow! That is great progress! You must be so happy.
Krimpet 🍔
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Posted 9/21/2016 10:36 PM (GMT 0)
Just start really slow on the art. Sounds like you have capsules. Do the capsules allow you to
open them, if so, toss 1/2 of it out and start there perhaps once a day.
BHD148
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Posted 9/21/2016 11:40 PM (GMT 0)
Yes I can
open them! Ill do that for sure. Do these symptoms sounds babesia like to you?
Krimpet 🍔
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Posted 9/22/2016 12:03 AM (GMT 0)
Great! And it does sound like babesia. And don't feel bad about
starting with even 1/4 or 1/3 of the capsule. I've done teeny weeny starters on some things.
BHD148
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Posted 9/22/2016 1:42 AM (GMT 0)
I'll start that low for sure. With how sensitive I am I usually do :) thanks so much! I've asked about
these symptoms in some other groups and everyone keeps telling me I sound diabetic but I really don't think I am honestly. My doctor thinks it's a co infection acting out, I've just never heard of anyone complain of something like this
Girlie
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Posted 9/22/2016 2:46 AM (GMT 0)
I started doing 'rounds' of Artemisinin in May 4 days on, 10 days (or is it 11? ) off.
The first round I did:
Day 1 2 caps x 2
Day 2 3 caps x 2
Day 3 4 caps x 2
Day 4 4 caps x 2
I slowly increased the amount on each round..and then on
Round 6 - I did:
Day 1 4 caps x3
Day 2 4 caps x 3
Day 3 5 caps x 3
Day 4 5 caps x 3
I herxed on Day 2 and 4 on round 6
I did less on Rounds 7,8,9
I have the 100 mg capsules.
BHD - are you going to only do a few days of the Artemisinin...and then break? Our intestines can produce an enzyme that kills the Art if we stay on it too long.
There are differing opinions on how long that is. The shortest time I read is from LLMD MR (Seattle) who says take a break after 3 days on.
BHD148
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Posted 9/22/2016 12:26 PM (GMT 0)
I am doing 4 days on, 3 days off.
I have the 100 mg capsules because the 200 mg capsules really hit me extremely hard. Don't want to experience that again as bad as it was.
I just took 1/4 of a capsule. Ive been putting off starting Art because of these bad symptoms that everyone claims means I'm diabetic and its just getting worse. So I started this morning. I hope its just Babesia.
BHD148
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Posted 9/22/2016 2:17 PM (GMT 0)
I took a touch over a 1/4 of a 100mg capsule at around 830. By 9:30 I had SEVERE nausea and really didnt feel well. Brain going in and out for about
an hour then subsided. Do you think it was hitting something that soon?
Girlie
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Posted 9/22/2016 6:00 PM (GMT 0)
To take 1/4 capsule - are you just
opening it up and taking the loose powder....or putting it in an empty cap?
If it's loose powder...maybe it's upsetting your stomach causing the nausea (rather than a herx).
But, that wouldn't explain the brain stuff.
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