Can new symptoms be from detoxing too much?

Was doing very well. Had LOTS of stress last week/this week. I walked a mile on Saturday and Sunday. Monday I started having pain in legs. Not burning, not tingling, not numbness. Weird feeling can’t explain - like legs are weak. It goes down to the back of my ankle. Also have similar feeling in arms. Sort of like they are weak and heavy. Also feel like I need to take deep breath. Not sure it’s the ‘air hunger’ may be from the eleuthero and anxiety of being nervous about new symptoms and the stress. I have been detoxing extra the past few days.

Can detoxing cause it? Currently taking:Eleuthero/ashwaganda, immune building/detoxing, Stephania root started today.

Thanks.

No, I don't think detoxing would cause it, but I'll let someone else weigh in with more experience. Overdoing it always caused my symptoms to increase. What are you doing for anti-bacterial sorts of herbs and what is your aim to tackle at this point. what you are taking I wouldn't think would cause a herx/reaction..but again..I"ll let others weigh in. responses to ashwaganda - how it effects. https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3248301 I did a search for herx and stephania and didn't come up with much.

Thanks everyone,

I was not tolerating killing herbs. Just started Stephania. My supplements are colloidal silver, astragalus, immune shield AHCC, B12, DK, Vit C, Magnesium, Omegas, spirulina, gluthione. Detox: detox tea, dry brushing, ACV, water with lemon, essential oils, magnesium oil. I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch.

Waiting for followup appt. with LLMD. I'm guessing I need more abx.

Hey Huddie, maybe it is a co-infection coming into the foreground. Shortness of breath can be indicative of babesia.

This kind of thing tends to happen to me all the time, I start to feel a bit better, then the next couple days horrible and sometimes new symptoms.

Sorry you are going through such a rough patch as well. Hugs to you.

Yes, Lymie Girl - When detoxing, you can get too many toxins released into the blood stream - and it can cause a herx. - That's why we start with a few detox methods...and then build on that - adding another one in every few days.

I also lately have been having a massive flare up of symptoms.. restless legs, tremors, dizziniess since starting Minocycline. Had to up anxiety medication its so bad,

Huddie said...
Yankee,

I'm so sorry. Since your handle is Yankee can I assume you are on the east coast? Perhaps the change of temps brought on a flare? Anxiety is awful. I had to take some last night as well. I wish you a fast flareup with minimal symptoms. Have a good day.

Thanks Huddie, yes New York (Upstate) here. No idea what brought this on.. could be my mind letting itself get the best of me. May need to go back on Lexapro (been off a year now) to try and quiet my mind. With these symptoms everyday I think I have MD, MS, ALS.. and I'm starting to lose it.

Are you used to walking a mile daily? That alone may be why you are having these new symptoms of weak feeling.

Ashwagandha and eleuthero are not the same things though. Eleuthero's main use is to raise the immune function, while ashwagandha's main use is to help balance adrenal and thyroid function.

Yankee, since your symptoms have increased since starting Mino, it's most likely a herx, as Mino crosses the blood-brain barrier very well. I would encourage you to increase your detoxing to help ease your symptoms. Binders would be very effective to help you "get a jump on" bringing the toxin load down more quickly - just remember to keep food, meds, herbs, or anything else you want your body to absorb 2 hours away (before and after) the time you take the binder.

How far were you walking two weeks ago?

I agree with you the cost of it all, but Lyme doctors are actually not charging much more than "regular" M.D.'s charge without insurance. Everything about medical care is overpriced, in my opinion though.

I can't afford to go to doctors because the only health care plan we can afford for me has a $6,000 deductible. It's only there in case of a "catastrophic event". Learning more about herbs and natural/alternative medicine that I can use on my own is my only defense.

Lol! I know what you mean. I paid $500 to get in to see the only M.D. in my area that I can get to that used natural meds for treating thyroid and adrenal issues!!

While I do agree that it's important to move and get some exercise, it must be kept at tolerable levels, as it can cause set backs by trying to do too much too early in recovery. It's called exercise intolerance, and is very real for many conditions actually, not just Lyme and co.

If a person exercises more than they are used to doing, they can experience either a herx (from the extra oxygen or from just moving muscles more and in turn releasing more toxins) or a set back due to "tiring" their body too much (stress on the body).

I'm not saying to stop, just trying to help you understand.

Lol! Dr. Burrascano is where I learned it from, and was shocked as well! It's in his paper on treating Lyme that I'm always posting on here!
www.lymenet.org/BurrGuide200810.pdf

But not if it continually sets them back - there is a balance that each of us must find for ourselves. While I still push myself, I also recognize and respect my boundaries, as I do wish to heal as fast as I can and not have continual set backs - been there, done that and have no desire to try it again! LOL!

Traveler said...
Lol! Dr. Burrascano is where I learned it from, and was shocked as well! It's in his paper on treating Lyme that I'm always posting on here!
www.lymenet.org/BurrGuide200810.pdf

That makes a lot of sense. Some people do herx from oxygen therapies such as ozone. I'm one of them. Though they get better obviously as the toxic load comes down.