Rotting teeth

Dogsblood- I am not sure about the ozone being more stable in oil. Probably. It sure tastes and smells like ozone! Yuck! Maybe worth a shot. I do hope you find answers and relief. It sounds horrible what you're going through! Glad to find another cultured food fanatic! I'm a HUGE believer in them. They are the only thing that ever cured a 7 year candida infection. Now if they would only kick Lyme to the curb!

I know this is a total shot in the dark but are you by chance drinking a ton of bone broth? I have a friend who was a vegetarian and jumped on the bone broth craze like a mad woman. Drinking maybe a half gallon or more a day. Her fillings started coming out along with bad/decayed teeth. The only thing she ever determined was that the bone broth was having a profound impact on her dental issues and healing them. It was quite unbelievable actually. Are yours definitely rotting or maybe having a healing crisis? Just a thought...

Jennysetter-
I am going to try the wheatgrass pulling! Do you ever add oil? Thanks for the tip!

Magoo2-
I will be there the end of Nov with surgery set with Dr. M for early December. He was thrilled to know that I came to find him through you! Yes, thanks for the tip about the Vit C. I was actually going to ask you for any more tips you might have. :) Do you work with an LLMD for abx for the surgery or does Dr. M do that? I know you come from out of town too so I was just wondering how that works as far as Lyme care. I will be staying 3 months or more because I have family there and it's too expensive and taxing to fly so far every 6-8 weeks. Is there a local Lyme doc you work with while there? TIA for any advice.

Oh, no, oil pulling is not something I could do...the mere thought of it gags me. I am a gagger!

Nope, just the wheatgrass. My teeth are whiter than ever and my receding gums are healing, too, believe it or not. I'm a believer and it's nowhere near the time commitment of oil pulling and no figuring out where to put it when you spit it out. Love the stuff. I don't rinse after I spit it out, leave it on your teeth and they will be slightly green for a few minutes. I don't eat or drink anything after I do this - I go straight to bed and let it do it's magic.

Love this method, not gross (at least to me) and my results have made me very happy. I will do this for the rest of my life and hope to be one of those old ladies who has all of her own teeth at 85 because of it! LOL

Jenny

Hi dogsblood,

If I were in your shoes I would stop all abx for at least 1 to 2 months (don't tell your doctor because your doctor won't agree as he/she won't be making money from big pharma)... What does antibiotic mean? Anti-Life which can destroy your healthy gums, your gallbladder, and the list goes on. There are much better alternatives to abx without the harmful side effects in my opinion.

Then see what happens to your gums and whatever healthy teeth you have left. You can always go back to abx. I have been healed for close to 11 years and one of the botanicals I used was called Borrelogen which was tested by IgeneX using the LUAT test. IgeneX found much more dead lyme bacteria using Borrelogen compared to abx.

"In that research we used a LUAT test, that essentially is a urine test where the lab counts how many pieces of dead Lyme spirochete bacteria were found in the patient’s urine, usually after a week of taking antibiotics. A positive LUAT was where the lab found 32 pieces of dead Lyme bacteria in your first morning urine. A highly positive test was if the lab found 45 pieces of dead Lyme bacteria. After our patients took 1 dropper TID of Borrelogen for a week almost all of the LUAT tests were between 100 to greater than 400 which is where the lab quits counting! The bioenergetic immune system of the body was able to kill off massive amounts of the bacteria. (Due to the frequencies produced by the body as a result of the installation of the new “software” from the remedy.)"

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As others said I would also up your detoxing (dry skin brushing, detox baths, foot baths, sauna, etc.)

The articles below may interest you regarding Dr. Jernigan's view on antibiotics:

www.townsendletter.com/April2007/antibioticlyme0407.htm

The article below is about lyme toxins being the primary cause of your symptoms:

www.benbrew.com/lb/lyme5.pdf

Bottom Line: You have other choices besides using conventional abx. It just take some research and reading about the different options available to you! Not everyone is meant to take abx especially when they do more harm then good.

Hope this helps,
Denise

I think it's great to have information such as the book "Cure Tooth Decay" but my thinking is if abx can destroy gums and teeth what else is being destroyed or compromised? I remember when I tried Doxy my teeth turned black (I had lower teeth back then, lost uppers from an accident). I said to myself if Doxy can do this to my teeth what is it doing to the rest of my body?

I look at the big picture because everything is connected: one's teeth, organs, skin, tissues, brain, etc. Teeth and gums are only ONE symptom of the adverse reactions of abx, what about all the other symptoms? Again, it's all connected. Mind, body and spirit. Once one has all 3 under control and working healthy the rest falls into place. Just my thoughts from my own personal experience.

Denise

Deejavu said...
I think it's great to have information such as the book "Cure Tooth Decay" but my thinking is if abx can destroy gums and teeth what else is being destroyed or compromised? I remember when I tried Doxy my teeth turned black (I had lower teeth back then, lost uppers from an accident). I said to myself if Doxy can do this to my teeth what is it doing to the rest of my body?

I look at the big picture because everything is connected: one's teeth, organs, skin, tissues, brain, etc. Teeth and gums are only ONE symptom of the adverse reactions of abx, what about all the other symptoms? Again, it's all connected. Mind, body and spirit. Once one has all 3 under control and working healthy the rest falls into place. Just my thoughts from my own personal experience.

Denise

I agree completely and originally chose my doc because I had read she didn't do ABX. However, I was wrong. I plan to switch to herbs at the end of this year if I have not healed by then. Other than my teeth the rest of me feels fine (2 months in, at least). In the meantime I am trying to decide between Buhner, Jernigan, etc. Though your story is very encouraging.

Dogsblood,

I agree it is so hard to know. I was on Doxcy and it did nothing to my teeth. That said I hate taking antibiotics and think they do a lot of harm. I will probably have to decide if I want to treat cos with abx or herbs. My 14 yo most likely has lyme and if he does it's chronic so would also like to heal him as quickly as possible so he doesn't miss out on important HS years. It's hard to know the right choice.

Thanks knuks. I am oil pulling in the AM with tea tree, then swishing with kefir. In the PM I do a bleach or peroxide rinse and hit it with kefir again. Depending on the extent of the damage I may have to see a special DDS. I will definitely try the salt/soda angle. I was doing this for a while, but only on the tongue, as that was what I'd always heard about.

Just wanted to update and say 90% of the black on my teeth was from staining, which was cleaned off by the dentist. I do have some decay on my front teeth, which they say is from grinding; however, I do not grind my teeth and this decay seemed to come on very rapidly, around the time I noticed the staining. However, I am still very happy with this development.

Sometimes I have a weird buzzing pain in my teeth that comes and goes, and is fairly new, but nothing to worry about yet.

I'm assuming the minocycline is the stain-culprit.