What helped you the most with bartonella anxiety and panic attacks?

Need to get them under control so I can see my llmd. I have limited funds so I cant buy everything. Ive tried a bunch of antidepressants, pasque flower, theanine, valerian root, gaba. All did absolutely nothing. Thanks guys.

My bart depression and anxety are just sliding out of control. My herxing is out of control no matter what i take and how much i try to detox. My llmd is out of town for three weeks and the only other one doesnt have availability until november in my state. I dont know whats wrong with my body. People are telling me maybe its mold or mthfr but i do not have the money to test for mold or fix mold or for 23andme or for b12 supplements.

Post Edited (jennydancingfish) : 10/18/2016 8:22:51 PM (GMT-6)

Ok peteza I will try to do this.

Hi jenny!

I am so sorry you are suffering!

My son had a massive panic/anxiety attack last night after I gave him 1/2 300 mg capsule of rifampin -he just can't do it. He finally fell asleep 7:30 this morning.

I am reading Dr. Marty Ross, I think I can mention his name, because he has his treat lyme website. He has weekly webinars where you can send in questions on Wednesday's -you have to sign up first though. I think he has old webinars on you tube.

Anyhoo, he says to reduce inflammation. With curcumin and glutathione. Then he is mentioning to reduce anxiety he prescribes very small doses of 5 mg 3/day of lithium orotate. i just saw you don't need a prescription for it and it has pretty high reviews.

Big hug!

Post Edited (Lymiemomster) : 10/19/2016 12:29:51 AM (GMT-6)

Jenny ..get a bottle of thieves and lavender essential oils ...put a spot on on your collar in the moldy haus ...and on your wrist when it gets to be too much ...biotics has the lith orate natural ..and you can buy holy basil at health food store ...also pacific biologic has a formula called calm n clear it helped me when i was was having muscle wasting and dying symptoms
if you cant get zanax ..and benzos buid a dependence but help the shakes ...i really suggest the holy basil ...i have even forgot the zanniea in a crowd of 10000 and i was ok driving .......can you handle zith?...it may pause the bart ...a bart and riffy with bee venom is working for me ...i get to meet ellie lobel this weekend and will come back with loads of info on bvt its cheap and not abx ...its fun in weird sorta way ..talk about inflammation reduction ..i know glutithione and curcumin is a luxury iv but it really helped my vasculotis that bartonella caused ...gunna try de calcification with msm ,ala chanca piedra stuffs too...oil of oregano topacally gave me a goood herx yesterday too...i smell like pizza ..no offense peteza

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 10/19/2016 12:04:08 AM (GMT-6)

Hi Jen!

Look up the lithium orotate. It's on Dr. Marty Ross a llmd's website. It looks interesting. I'm going to call around at health food stores tomorrow.

Hang in there!

jennydancingfish said...
Need to get them under control so I can see my llmd. I have limited funds so I cant buy everything. Ive tried a bunch of antidepressants, pasque flower, theanine, valerian root, gaba. All did absolutely nothing. Thanks guys.

My bart depression and anxety are just sliding out of control. My herxing is out of control no matter what i take and how much i try to detox. My llmd is out of town for three weeks and the only other one doesnt have availability until november in my state. I dont know whats wrong with my body. People are telling me maybe its mold or mthfr but i do not have the money to test for mold or fix mold or for 23andme or for b12 supplements.

My doctor, my primary care doctor asked me if I would try a drug that he thought may help with not only the depression and panic, anxiety etc but also with all my leg pain & neuropathy in both arms and both legs. I told him to pound sand but my wife begged me and agreed that if it did NOT help, she would relent and even give me her blessing to even end my life it nothing worked. Just PLEASE try this first is all she asked.... So I took this also expensive new drug called Duloxetine. I think Cymbalta is the non generic name? God only know what THAT must cost since this generic costs me $65.00 a month with great insurance. I swear. I took it about 7PM and when I woke up I was me again. The ME who had NO fear, had to reach into the depths of my horrible memory banks of War to even feel any sadness. NO fear, NO depression, NO anger. It was like I was born brand new. So it saved my life, it gave me BACK a life that was so broken I was worse than dead.
*NOTE: I cut the entire story about why & how I nearly committed suicide a few weeks ago OUT of this story in case the paragraph above sound "abrupt"? Bottom line is-I was and AM the nicest, most considerate, caring man alive. Until about 4 months ago when whatever Lyme or some co infection has done to me. I was borderline insane by the day I got the drug above and had sunk SO low I would not even be here if not for the medication. I do NOT believe in antidepressants. Never did. And yet here I am suggesting maybe it is the single greatest medication on Earth. Maybe because for ME, it is literally the only medication I have ever taken in my 67 year life that actually helped me? Too ashamed & embarrassed to go into what a jerk I had become from whatever disease inside of me turned me into for a few weeks....

Jenny, I have tried a lot of things over the years for my anxiety, some work, most don't. The one thing that has definitely stuck though is peppermint tea... It doesn't do wonders but it really helps!

klwxo95 said...
Also, if you're looking more towards the medication route, I have been taking one called propranolol for a couple of years now. You don't have to take it every day, I could somewhat compare it to the way benzo's work but it's definitely not a benzo. It lowers your norepinephrine levels so that your "fight or flight" response isn't so intense. It's actually used to lower blood pressure I believe. It's not addictive either which is a plus!

My LLND prescribed it for me, but I didn't take it. I have an overstimulated nervous system...no anxiety though. So, if there's something on tv that's exciting , or a song I really like, my body shivers.
He wanted me to take it for 30 days..thought it would stop the "cycle "

I was concerned about it lowering my blood pressure...it is already between 105-120 over 68-72. (Currently)

I also thought once on it, I might not be able to get off it.

I was told it had to be taken daily though...

I don't have anxiety..except for the odd two seconds before my sweats hit me.

So not sure if it would work for these shivering spells I have.

Thanks guys! I have propranol. Llmd says my lyme makes my heart race. And we tried cymbalta antidepressants dont work on me and my twin

jennydancingfish said...
Thanks guys! I have propranol. Llmd says my lyme makes my heart race. And we tried cymbalta antidepressants dont work on me and my twin

so, you haven't tried the propranolol yet, jenny?

You go first!

I have used Gaba - just to try and calm down my nervous system - can't say it did anything.

Dr. Chan also sent me the Psystabil - I tried it for a few weeks...and stopped...didn't notice any improvements.

Sometimes I just get tired of all the 'stuff' I've been told to take....I was swallowing way too many pills/capsules/tinctures each day...it was bothering my throat...that was already having issues from the minocycline/rifampin combo.

I've pared down my stuff - don't feel any worse...

I was just looking at the Gaba...may give it another try again.

And then there's the cost of all this = this pile in the supplement graveyard.

Ok girlie ill start it tomorrow ill let u know if i feel different!
And klw some make me depressed and others do absolutely nothing same with my sister.
My twin has tried like every antipsychotic, antidepressant, mood stabilizer etc on the market. They didnt do anything the antibiotics have started cracking into everything though yeyy