bee venom

I am talking to a lady now who spent over a million dollars drying to get well and went to bee venon and now she is almost better and had more issues than me and more nerve issuses...


thought?

I never have been before all of this...

I don't think I am ..I would have to sting myself and see..I never have been before..but I know with all this mess our bodies changes...sounds painful..but success rate for late stage neurological lyme seems good from what I am finding..and if I am not allergic..I can actullay afford it

carla said...
I don't think I am ..I would have to sting myself and see..I never have been before..but I know with all this mess our bodies changes...sounds painful..but success rate for late stage neurological lyme seems good from what I am finding..and if I am not allergic..I can actullay afford it

You need to look for someone that is super knowledgeable in this and can sting you to begin with. I do not recommend you doing it to yourself to begin with. I think most of the BVT peeps also keep on hand an EpiPen.

I may be wrong but I think you begin on your back and that might be difficult to do by yourself.

You might want to look on Facebook - I think that is where our BVT people meet up and get a lot of information. Sorry, I don't know the website.

Also try the search button.

WHEN I had allergy testing done last year they said I was just allergic to mold....but I put in a call to find out.... not sure about it but it seems like it addresses most everything...from what I am hearing... This lady on facebook who has the video out...she had all these nerve issues etc...and her case was so bad her doc presented it at the conference......and she is much better now...just looking at option...never thought I would consider it butl......

Post Edited (carla) : 7/5/2016 10:12:37 AM (GMT-6)

Carla - If you're interested you could join a BVT Facebook group and get all the information/help from there.

Even those not allergic have Epipens on hand - just in case.

Has anyone heard from carla ?

The apitherapy conferenrenc was great ..this is for ko7 and july and anybody else ...

pain inproved , twitching almost stopped ,less dizzy better toleranfe ,muscle wasting stopped , light sensitivity better ,hypoglycemia better ,urinary control better ,livedo better ,headaches better ,nueropathy better , now mind yoh i have done a lot of everything but bvt 11 month in ..here is take aways from confernce

Yay i got some hope this weekend ! First off was in some place beautiful. And my soul is refreshed...

I met some amazing warriors and they were better

It seems that there is more than anecdotal evidence that bee venom actually pokes holes in the osp of borrelia .
Eva sapi is trimming a scientic report of 30 something pages on her recreation of the famous 1997 rocky Mountain labs publication on melittlin.

It may be more than mettlitin ,the apamin and other degranulating peptides may be synergistic in the effect ..
Two points of contention well 3 ...
Is live stings better than bottled venom .yes gas spectrometry shows more active peptides in fresh than in dried and reconstituted venomms folks been saying this for years ...however in scar tissue injections seemed better clinically .the other was in treatment protocol  and whether to use adjuct therapys co-commitantly with bvt . Oxidative therapys and certain herbal supplementals seemed to be tolerated by some and not by others ...abx are thought to build biofilms stronger however organ support without cox 2 inhibitors or cp450 inducers seemed ok with the exception of iv glutithione. And a big maybe on tumeric .and ozone .
It was concluded that it does have anti parsitic and gram positive inhibition equal or greater than penicillian ..however the efficacy on gram negative was teported in at 47% ..which still is pretty good . This is what microscopist on lymenet have been saying ..however ...a few people there by experience have had success treating bartonella and mycoplasm with bvt...
ellie was a doll ,adamant and passionate and a great postergal for all the buzz(pun intended)...so if you are looking for a way out and are really sick consider bvt as a way ..

Many persons with lyme were there some getting better including myself ...one did abx 6 yrs severe neuro sx  ..one ..on picc line could not tolerate exercise in the slightest ..now on a motorcycle ..one mis dx as parkinsons was not using walker any more and myself reversing the lower motor neuron demylienation bs...

I am using abx but when i get out of the woods i will go to the light just like a bee

I just emailed Carla, Girlie, a short note saying this thread had been brought back up and we are wondering how she is doing, etc.



On the bvt, I have a sensitivity to bee stings, some worse than others, but none of them are anything I'd do to myself deliberately, the pain from a sting will hurt me for days. I was attacked by a swarm about 11 years ago that made my sensitivity much worse.

Bumping for abhi...jenny if you wanma start let me know if i can help..
july -if you didn not have anaphalaxis you are likely not allergic .it was probably killing rmsf lyme etc...its in your budget...the pain of untreated lyme and cpn bad enough for me to cope ..it actually stops .other pain by signal inhibition and cytokine reduction

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 10/25/2016 1:04:04 PM (GMT-6)

bluelyme - that is great to hear! I have just started BVT - one month in (@ 8 stings), however I'm still on abx and other supplements that may be counterproductive to BVT. I'm in the process of getting my courage up to cut those out and go full out with BVT. I have a lot of similar symptoms to yours listed above, most notable being muscle wasting and twitching. How long did it take for those 2 symptoms to subside? Also - are you following Ellie Lobel's protocol or another?

Hi thyme2kill,
I am doing abx 2 or 3 days a week and bvt mwf ..amber rose style with hoshindo on accupuncture points .and herbs iv stuffs...im almost a year in ..ellie thinks abx makes biofilms stronger ..but i was not making gains quick enough until i added abx ..it also has helped with searing bone pain...

iv magnesium and chinese cats claw helped most with twitching ...gone in a month with iv ala and phosphatydlcholine high dose biotin ,royal jelly and luons mane ...also houtthnia ,rifampin ,andrographis and smilax and a bart ...treat parasites too

a little pain and a lot of gain helping me from goin insane and circling the drain

Bluelyme i cant do it atm but i am DEFINITELY interested in doing it in the future you are so smart ❤

bluelyme,

Thanks. I may try doing something similar. I do bvt on Sun,Tues,Thurs - I'll probably start pulsing meds on Mon,Wed,Fri,Sat or something. I'm going to stop taking Turmeric even though I'm positive that helped me with a lot of pain, and try some of the supplements you mentioned. Which type of Magnesium did you take? I probably won't do IV but would try the same type if that helped you a lot.

I do spine stings, Ellie's protocol (more or less). I have bart and babs too so I'm not sure I can do just bvt.