question, about sauna and horroble symptoms the next day.

poohcheez - I have had reactions after a sauna, which I hoped for. The lyme spirochete dies when the core body temperature raises above a certain temperature. I will try and find the science article at what temperature. I think it is 105 degrees F. You probably got your core body temperature up to kill the spirochete and had a bad herx reaction. There is a treatment protocol in Europe that uses heat therapy.

If you don't want to herx from the sauna, don't stay in quite so long. I would begin with 5 minutes to start.

When I timed how long it took for my body in the sauna to get to 105 degrees F it was 13 minutes. After that, bye bye spirochetes. I worked up to it and would not advise this to anyone! I take personal responsibility for myself and what I do, I wouldn't necessarily recommend to others. Lyme loves cold bodies so getting your body temperature up with a sauna safely is an effective part of the protocol. www.lyme-disease-research-database.com/lyme_disease_blog_files/lyme-disease-symptoms-bodytemp.html

Yeah found the article!
/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8792482
"In 1917, spirochaetal neurosyphilis was treated successfully with malariotherapy in combination with salvarsan or bi****h. Malariotherapy for spirochaetal Lyme disease has been discussed, but the mechanism of an antispirochaetal effect remains unclear. We cultured Borrelia burgdorferi at different temperatures, alone and in combination with antibiotics. Our data demonstrate that growth of the strains PKo and ATCC 35210 (B31) was impaired at temperatures of 37 degrees C and inhibited at 39 degrees C and 40 degrees C, respectively. Strain ATCC 35211, however, grew well up to 39 degrees C but did not multiply at 40 degrees C. A bactericidal effect was seen at 41 degrees C for the strains B31 and PKo and at 42 degrees C for all strains. The susceptibility of all strains to penicillin and ceftriaxone was increased up to 16-fold by an elevation of temperature from 36 degrees C to 38 degrees C. These in vitro data suggest that elevated body temperature may be beneficial during antimicrobial treatment of Lyme disease. This may be particularly important in tissues where high concentrations of antibiotics are difficult to achieve."

41 degrees celcius is 105.8 F

42 degrees celcius is 107.6 F

It is important to know that HIGH TEMPERATURES can be DANGEROUS!

So - some symptoms could conceivable could be the effects of the body getting overheated.

Post Edited (multifacetedme) : 12/2/2016 4:04:22 PM (GMT-7)

that would be interesting article to read, ive done less time before and never felt as bad, feels like i have a pressure headache ouch, who knows maybe even a yeast die off because i took diflucan, the other day just hard to pin point. thats why lyme is tricky, have to be a detective.

Thanks for the article i guess, Ill work up slowly, and then do more exercise if i can, i was doing pull therapy for a while felt better than going to the gym.

I think, because I brought up using a sauna at the gym as my own attempt to get my core temperature up - people should educate themselves about the danger... use with caution. Found a few articles. about things to be aware of with science article links for references.
www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/7-dangers-of-the-sauna/
wellnessmama.com/26269/benefits-of-saunas/