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Posted 12/20/2016 2:11 PM (GMT 0)
Another person that I found who went to sierra. This is what she wrote to me after I asked her questions....

Yes I did go and it's been 3 years and my blood is still clean. How long have you had Lyme. I did every treatment to no avail and this was the one thing that worked.
Yes I had Bartonella and Babesia....I fought it for 8 years and SIMC was what finally got me better. I did IV antibiotics for years. The treatment there is intense but it stimulates and modulates your immune system and that is what ultimately gets the infection under control
It's worth every penny. I would say yes....but because they don't know if it ever goes completely away....no one knows. I go back every so often to get my blood looked at. It's been great ever since. Also it took me about 6 months after getting out to feel that I have been healed. Sometimes it takes your body time to recover and heal.....but honestly I felt amazing part of the way through the treatment. It's very spiritually cleansing too. And I never mind the questions.
Posted 12/20/2016 2:39 PM (GMT 0)
more good news robby. unfortunately $14k to unplug for 6 weeks and leave the world to get better is not something most of us (even with means) can attain. wish there was an alternate means of trying their approach without such a near impossible commitment for most.
Posted 12/20/2016 2:45 PM (GMT 0)

Rikky1 said...
more good news robby. unfortunately $14k to unplug for 6 weeks and leave the world to get better is not something most of us (even with means) can attain. wish there was an alternate means of trying their approach without such a near impossible commitment for most.

I know exactly what you are saying Ricky. I don't have the money neither. I will do a good fund account and raise money though my friends to be able to go there. The time is OK for me I don't care about staying for 6 weeks. Literally I lost an entire year being sick... so I can do that. I wish it could be cheaper
Posted 12/20/2016 6:38 PM (GMT 0)
2 more people. One from face book and one from instagram.

Yes. I was undiagnosed for 16 years. Once I was diagnosed I tried other treatments for three years with no success. I was initially treated at SIMC in 2010. I made three visits that year for a total of 10 weeks of treatment. I followed up with five pushes in 2011. I haven't done pushes since then, but would like to, to boost my immune system. We last looked at my darkfield one year ago, and it was completely clean. My mom, sister and all three of my kids have done treatment there. In 2015, they saved my 10 year old's life after the doctors here at home said there was nothing medically wrong with him. He was in severe pain for five months, and couldn't eat anything without making it worse. Eight days into treatment he was symptom free. He was in treatment with Jim Higgins. I wouldn't go anywhere else. It seems expensive, but if you consider that the average cost to treat a Lyme patient is $100,000, it's a bargain. Every penny spent there is worth it.

2-I only went for a week definitely not long enough but this place is the answer!! I actually met Chuck Norris when I was there!! I went three years ago and I'm dying to go back that's my goal for January it helps tremendously.. but warning you it is painful... my sister had Lyme as well and healed from this place her and her ex-husband both healed along with a lot of people I referred 🙏🏼 I seriously cannot wait to go back!
Posted 12/20/2016 8:57 PM (GMT 0)
Good luck robby sending you healing vibes let us know how it goes
Posted 12/21/2016 3:36 AM (GMT 0)

jennydancingfish said...
Good luck robby sending you healing vibes let us know how it goes

Thank you my friend
Posted 12/21/2016 3:39 AM (GMT 0)
Another person wrote me ....

Hi Robby,

I did go to Sierra and I did get better!! Dr. Fong saved my life for sure. I literally cannot recommend Sierra highly enough.

I'm so sorry you have Lyme and co 😕
Posted 12/21/2016 4:05 AM (GMT 0)
But if you never try you'll never know

Coldplay - Fix It!

Not a favorite song of mine, but I do love that one line!!
Posted 12/21/2016 4:07 AM (GMT 0)
Can't wait to try it. The reason why I keep posting this is to show that there is hope and people are getting better there
Posted 12/21/2016 4:12 AM (GMT 0)
Always follow your heart.

That way you never will say, "I wonder what would have happened if I had of......."

I never got hurt one bit by saying, "I tried it."
Posted 12/21/2016 4:38 AM (GMT 0)
Good luck Robby. Looking forward to hearing all about your experience. You've done your research and you are following through on your decision. Very happy for you.
Posted 12/21/2016 4:58 PM (GMT 0)

Buzzlymeyear said...
Good luck Robby. Looking forward to hearing all about your experience. You've done your research and you are following through on your decision. Very happy for you.

We will all get better somehow...🙏
Posted 12/21/2016 5:22 PM (GMT 0)
Robby - you know we will want all the details...lol.


Please share your experiences with us!
Posted 12/21/2016 6:41 PM (GMT 0)
I wonder if it's just a matter of daily therapies that you couldn't possibly do without being inpatient and that's the only thing that can cure lymes...
Posted 12/21/2016 7:08 PM (GMT 0)
cb i think you may be onto something. constant vigilance with the right treatment protocol that covers all the bases is probably the highest success rate you'll get. you hear of stars getting sick and seems all of them get better because they have the means (and time) to lock themselves away for a while and just focus on getting better.

given not all of us can unplug from the world and do this + the very unique approach each one must take + many of us have to make some of this stuff up on our own given the lack of maturity in this field = where we are today. at least that's my belief ;)
Posted 12/21/2016 7:16 PM (GMT 0)
Well if this is the case I think it's worth it...take out a loan, take leave from work...I am going to look into this because I can't live like this too long it's a nightmare
Posted 12/21/2016 8:00 PM (GMT 0)
cb its no guarantee this approach will fix everyone's ills. i think if that were the case you'd have many of these clinics doing the same things and this guy would be a gazillionaire. still i think if you are at the end of your rope and you want to dedicate a chunk of time/money/sacrifice to try the 'all in' approach this sounds like a good option to pursue. just be prepared with a possible outcome that it doesn't get you back to 100%.
Posted 12/21/2016 8:41 PM (GMT 0)
What they do is a hard core iv alternative treatment + other stuff for detoxification, killing bugs and to make your immune system stronger. I saw few videos on instagram and YouTube and definitely you have to be at the clinic to get the treatment.
Posted 12/22/2016 2:39 AM (GMT 0)
I don't mean to be a buzz kill but I just Googled Lymenet flash Sierra Integrative and the reviews were very mixed.

One person said it was a ripoff and did nothing for them. Another said they heard of someone that did very well and another knew people that went and some saw great improvement and others only slight improvement.

It seems pretty hit or miss but the odds are probably in your favor to at least get some symptom relief if not total. Good luck in your journey back to health Robby and definitely keep us abreast on your progress.
Posted 12/22/2016 2:46 AM (GMT 0)
I saw that on Google, but I went further and found the people who got treated there. If conventional medicine is failing us, they can do it too. I'm confident about this place but we know when it comes to lyme there is no silver bullet.
Posted 12/22/2016 10:10 AM (GMT 0)
Good post Robby.

I admire your no nonsense fact based, get to the point /get to the bottom of things approach. Its so easy for many of us to stay stuck on the hamster wheel of doubt and speculation and I applaud you for being willing to take such serious action instead of just talking and speculating.

As for the protocol they use at sierra, it seems similar to a process used by a clinic in Germany that I read about following a young girl's experience on her blog who claims to have healed. Seems very immune system focused. They seem to use intermittent ozone, Iv Vit-C, Myers cocktails, Iv Chelation and detox and Even peroxide IVs and the secret weapon is apparently an IV shot or push that is made from a green algae called chlorella considered to be a mitochondrial stimulator. This can be pretty rough and cause some reactions of chills, tremors and fever all of which are considered a good sign (herx). they also do Glyoxal injections daily. In all my research of lyme I have heard of many different treatments but never heard of glyoxal. Apparently this is intended to oxidize microbes like peroxide and ozone would. They continually monitor all of this with darkfield microscopy of the blood.

of course they say that they tailor the approach for each client.

All in all it sounds like a very comprehensive approach.

Seem to be some positive reviews on personal blogs:

https://thelethallymie.wordpress.com/

She claimed to have lyme for 3 years and and claimed to be in remission after six week treatment and 2 months homecare. She last updated dec 2015. 18 months after treatment claiming to be still in remission.

Also

https://lymechicky.wordpress.com/

She claimed to have lyme for 10 years. trying Iv Abx and other methods didnt help.

She documents her 8 week treatment at sierra day by day. She shows herself being pushed around in a wheelchair and then after treatment she has pics of her running and jumping hurdles, finishing her '1st 5k in 10 yrs', and hiking a 30 mile weekend backcountry hike with a full camping backpack. She mentioned going back to sierra for a six month 'tuneup.'


Seems like pretty positive results, at least for these 2.


Very costly as you know. 500 initial apointment, 2000 for labs, 2000 per wk of treatment. If you factor in food transport and lodging, the recommended 6-7 week stay would be around 20,000, plus the cost of follow up homecare

Like you, I didnt find too many negative comments beyond the lady who you mentioned who claimed they drained her 80k savings and gave her son hepatitis because of ozone therapy. These were among the complaints against Dr. Fong's mother who started the facility but has retired. I havent found any complaints against Dr Fong himself.

Very comprehensive and unconventional approach. Daily hands on intensive treatment as opposed to 'heres some meds. Do your bloodwork and I'll see you in 2-3 months" that you get from most LLMD's (including horowiz and jemsek)

I think its definitely worth a shot if you have the $.

As others have said, please do keep us updated on your experiences here Robby. February isnt that long away (Im actually psyched for you and I dont even know yousmile good luck and godspeed.
Posted 12/22/2016 3:13 PM (GMT 0)

logmoss82 said...
Good post Robby.

I admire your no nonsense fact based, get to the point /get to the bottom of things approach. Its so easy for many of us to stay stuck on the hamster wheel of doubt and speculation and I applaud you for being willing to take such serious action instead of just talking and speculating.

As for the protocol they use at sierra, it seems similar to a process used by a clinic in Germany that I read about following a young girl's experience on her blog who claims to have healed. Seems very immune system focused. They seem to use intermittent ozone, Iv Vit-C, Myers cocktails, Iv Chelation and detox and Even peroxide IVs and the secret weapon is apparently an IV shot or push that is made from a green algae called chlorella considered to be a mitochondrial stimulator. This can be pretty rough and cause some reactions of chills, tremors and fever all of which are considered a good sign (herx). they also do Glyoxal injections daily. In all my research of lyme I have heard of many different treatments but never heard of glyoxal. Apparently this is intended to oxidize microbes like peroxide and ozone would. They continually monitor all of this with darkfield microscopy of the blood.

of course they say that they tailor the approach for each client.

All in all it sounds like a very comprehensive approach.

Seem to be some positive reviews on personal blogs:

https://thelethallymie.wordpress.com/

She claimed to have lyme for 3 years and and claimed to be in remission after six week treatment and 2 months homecare. She last updated dec 2015. 18 months after treatment claiming to be still in remission.

Also

https://lymechicky.wordpress.com/

She claimed to have lyme for 10 years. trying Iv Abx and other methods didnt help.

She documents her 8 week treatment at sierra day by day. She shows herself being pushed around in a wheelchair and then after treatment she has pics of her running and jumping hurdles, finishing her '1st 5k in 10 yrs', and hiking a 30 mile weekend backcountry hike with a full camping backpack. She mentioned going back to sierra for a six month 'tuneup.'


Seems like pretty positive results, at least for these 2.


Very costly as you know. 500 initial apointment, 2000 for labs, 2000 per wk of treatment. If you factor in food transport and lodging, the recommended 6-7 week stay would be around 20,000, plus the cost of follow up homecare

Like you, I didnt find too many negative comments beyond the lady who you mentioned who claimed they drained her 80k savings and gave her son hepatitis because of ozone therapy. These were among the complaints against Dr. Fong's mother who started the facility but has retired. I havent found any complaints against Dr Fong himself.

Very comprehensive and unconventional approach. Daily hands on intensive treatment as opposed to 'heres some meds. Do your bloodwork and I'll see you in 2-3 months" that you get from most LLMD's (including horowiz and jemsek)

I think its definitely worth a shot if you have the $.

As others have said, please do keep us updated on your experiences here Robby. February isnt that long away (Im actually psyched for you and I dont even know yousmile good luck and godspeed.

Thank you so much. Everything that you put in there is what I found so I'm sure it will help. Can't wait to go and give up dates. Thank you!
Posted 12/22/2016 8:02 PM (GMT 0)
A friend of mine went. She said it helped a lot, but did not "cure" her. When talking about it, she mentioned getting lab work, which is covered by your insurance, before going since patients don't have coverage at the clinic.

Best to you! Let us know how it goes.
Posted 12/22/2016 8:59 PM (GMT 0)
Another person just wrote me on Facebook

Yes! That place is amazing and I am almost 2 years past my initial treatment and the only thing left I'm dealing with is allergies. I'm back to work, exercising, and caring for my family. Remarkable given the fact that I was wheelchair shopping early Alzheimer's.

Trust. They are so very good at what they do. 30+ years treating Lyme with a 90% success rate. dr. Fong still consults with me monthly via phone consulst for only $50. They are very committed to the long-term health of their patients. Worth every penny.

Post Edited (robby vieira) : 12/22/2016 2:04:05 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/22/2016 9:13 PM (GMT 0)
One thing that I learned is that lyme can cause autoimmune diseases. I talked to a woman from NY who treated with other dc... but didn't get better... so they found that lyme caused her body to create an autoimmune disease. So they defeated lyme and once that problem was addressed she went back to a normal life. So my point is maybe that treatment worked but she has another problem now that is been mistaken by lyme and coinfections.

Post Edited (robby vieira) : 12/22/2016 5:13:20 PM (GMT-7)

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