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Posted 1/23/2017 8:33 PM (GMT 0)
My Lyme heath professional did a before and after heavy metals test on me. Before chelation pills, all levels were low. After taking chelation pills, my lead level was all the way high. So now I need to decide whether to chelate or not. You see, the lead in me is stored in my bones and may stay there without disturbing me until I die of very old age. If I chelate over the course of several weeks, the lead will circulate in my bloodstream and go into my brain before it goes out in my urine. From what I understand, the brain is extremely sensitive to lead. I don't want to do more harm than good by stirring it up. I wonder if anyone has any info on the risk of chelating heavy metals that are not actively in the bloodstream.
Posted 1/23/2017 8:39 PM (GMT 0)
I successfully chelates mercury out of every spot except my thyroid. Working on that one now with a custom homeopathic. I am hopeful it works... I have no history with lead.

All I will say is take it very slow and be sure to bolster the detox pathways, like liver, gallbladder, colon n kidney/bladder.
Posted 1/23/2017 8:40 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, welcome to our community!

Please read the topic New To Lyme?.......Start here! there you will find a lot of useful information.

Regarding your question, I don't know much about chelation. Make sure you detox well.
Posted 1/23/2017 9:04 PM (GMT 0)
Heavy metal chelation is pretty serious stuff. I just read somewhere where Dr Klinghardt now likes using cilantro with ionic footbaths. I think that was in Connie Strasheim's latest lyme book, where a free chapter was posted on here a week or so ago.
Posted 1/23/2017 9:18 PM (GMT 0)
Welcome to our community, DMG!

I didn't realize the heavy metals test showed the level in your bones...I thought it was blood.

Gosh, that is a tough decision...leave sleeping dogs lie....or disturb it and remove it...

Hopefully you will get more responses from members who are knowledgeable on the subject.
Posted 1/23/2017 9:29 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not expert on this but was convinced enough by what dr Klinghardt says and he recommends using cilantro + chlorella as very fast and safe method. I already bought those and plan to start soon. You can read more about it here:

/www.nihadc.com/library/detox-for-life-class-2-addit-resources/54-4-dosing-with-chlorella/file.html?accept_license=1.
klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/Heavy_Metal_Toxicity/Heavy_Metal_Detox_Clinical_Pearls.pdf
www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/neurotoxin/NeurotoxinProtocol_Jan06.pdf
Posted 1/23/2017 10:32 PM (GMT 0)
I was tested by the individual's company in the link for Mercury and Heavy Metals. He affirms that his testing and detox protocols are the most advanced. He argues that traditional challenge tests and chelation therapy are outdated compared to his methods. I am convinced that he is unparalleled and that his expertise on the subject of heavy metals testing and detoxing is superior to others in this area. In short, he has according to him, found a better way. I am endlessly fascinated by his lectures and guest appearances on health podcast found on youtube. I've yet to use his detox protocols only because I'm saving up to have my fillings removed. But I can't wait.

Might want to investigate this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8NjxkztGn0
Posted 1/23/2017 11:17 PM (GMT 0)
Little_Moe: what's the approx. cost of such detox? Let us know how it will work for you!
Posted 1/24/2017 12:48 AM (GMT 0)
A guy named Cutler wrote a great book on mercury detox-you may want to read
Posted 1/24/2017 2:02 AM (GMT 0)
My wife has high levels of lead she's going the Calcium disodium EDTA rectal suppository route. This is highly effective in removing lead and she doesn't need to spend big $ doing IV chelation at the doctors office. Not condoning this product but had a short good description on going this route if interested.

oradix.com/health/why-a-suppository
Posted 1/24/2017 4:08 AM (GMT 0)
I did chelation therapy. It's expensive at $90 dollars a visit. I must have done 10 or so sessions and I had to stop because it flared my neuropathy and caused my skin to burn. So I'm taking a much slower route now.
Posted 1/24/2017 4:30 AM (GMT 0)
Check in diatrameous earth food grade
Posted 1/24/2017 5:08 AM (GMT 0)
Chris moe's link was for Chris shade's qube chelation, which is what I had success with. It's a protocol you do at home, powder, and supplements to complement. If you can do it in full, it's a 12 week protocol. The first time took me between 9-12 months to accomplish. Eventually, I finished it in the 3 months with no side effects or herx.
Posted 1/24/2017 2:48 PM (GMT 0)

Yellow Cat said...
Little_Moe: what's the approx. cost of such detox? Let us know how it will work for you!

Hi. I believe it's around 500 for a three month supply. I may be mistaken. I'll provide a link to the website.
Just a side note, Detox time depends on what your levels are and if your body is getting rid of toxins or if you have what is called retention. That's a real butchered version of what is going on, but if you're really curious how this particular detox protocol works, there are more than plenty of Chris Shade videos on youtube where he explains this in great detail. Hope this helps.

https://www.quicksilverscientific.com/solutions
Posted 1/25/2017 1:34 AM (GMT 0)
My very FIRST treatment protocol involved heavy metals chelation. 8 weeks of I.V. edta/dmps, then supplementation orally. My Lyme literate doctor believes that one cannot begin to erradicate spirochetes without first dealing with the heavy metals BECAUSE the bacteria piggy back on the heavy metals(for lack of a better term). Heavy metals also CAUSE reactivation of all those nasty herpes viruses such as EBV, CMV, & HHV6. I WAS in a constant state of hsv1 and hsv2 outbreaks until now that my heavy metals burden is much lower, my virals are back to being dormant!!!!

A word of caution when chelating, "you must put back in what the chelating agents grab hold of and remove ie, calcium, magnesium, zinc, vitamind. People with HIGH heavy metals burden but consume mineral supplements still show to be deficient in those same minerals due to the fact that the zinc will cling to the heavy metals.

Im now doing the nasal spray forMARcons that includes edta because the antibiotic resistant staph are resistant BECAUSE OF the heavy metals.

Good luck with your chelation!
Posted 1/25/2017 9:49 PM (GMT 0)
I am thinking of chelating soon but I am very scared. My heavy metals tests arent off the charts but all my sxs started 2 months after amalgam removal so I suspect there is some connection. I think I'm going to start with Andy Cutlers protocol as I believe it poses the less risks/ side effects but I'll discuss with my doc.
Posted 1/26/2017 1:57 AM (GMT 0)
given its possible that heavy metals can prevent one from healing from lyme and co's its something that must be tested for and addressed early on i would think.
Posted 1/28/2017 3:07 AM (GMT 0)
Hi DMG!! Im bumping this to see if anyone else will chime in.
Posted 1/28/2017 9:35 AM (GMT 0)
I'll defer to Klinghardt's experience on heavy metals and found this quote interesting:

"Mineral deficiency provides the opportunity for toxic metals to attach themselves to vacant binding sites. A healthy mineral base is a prerequisite for all metal detox attempts (selenium, zinc, manganese, germanium, molybdenum etc.). Substituting minerals can detoxify the body by itself."

When researching the etiology and physiological detriment of Lyme Disease, a deficiency of minerals was a constant issue for Lyme patients. So a negative synergistic effect of Lyme is a mineral deficiency combined with elevated toxic metals. Reducing the toxic metal load is just as important as reducing the pathogen load. Klighardt often talks about the fact that removing toxic metals often allows for increased borrelia growth as well as the growth of other pathogens in the system. Both must be accounted for to achieve a successful outcome in patient care.
Posted 2/3/2017 2:21 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you to everyone. Being new to this forum, I somehow didn't know that I had any responses! I thought I had checked off that I wanted to get an email telling me that I had a response, but maybe I didn't....

Briefly, I am now 60 and I believe I've had Lyme since I was a little girl. I was 6 when I was diagnosed with a heart murmur and I was very sickly until my early 30's. I've had a variety of ticks over the years, had the 'flu' many many times, I have arthritis in my hands, neck, low back, ringing in my ears, floaters galore, brain fog, TMJ, heart palpitations, sensitive to light and sound, stiff necks, muscle aches and pains...........on an off during my whole life.

With all of this, I am exceptionally healthy and feel very good.

A year ago my niece found out she had Lyme, and with each of her symptoms, I said to myself, 'I have that symptom.' I found out last summer through Igenex that I have Lyme.

So I am going to a health professional who I found through ILADS. I go to her because honestly I work soooooo hard to be healthy and feel good, while those around me do nothing and feel healthy and good. I'd like to be able to do less and still feel good. Of course once I got into the whole Lyme thing, I found that I am now actually doing more to feel better and live longer. I'd like to eradicate or lessen my Lyme, yes, that is my ultimate goal. I'm sure it is for all of us. Not so easy though, huh?

If I may share 2 things I've adopted in my life that I believe account for my good health for the last 25 years, it is:

I gave up cow's milk products (I was completely formula fed as a baby)
I do aerobic exercise that I love for at least 30 minutes almost every day. With rare exceptions I have done this level of activity during my whole life.

So now I am wrestling with the lead. Let me explain.

I had a urine collection test over 6 hrs. during the night, and the lead level was low. I took about 10 chelation pills, collected my urine for 6 more hours, and my lead was shy high. So the lead is not roaming around my bloodstream. It is hidden away, most likely in my bones, and the chelation pills drew it out and circulated it in my bloodstream, and then I excreted it out in my urine.

The chelation I'm contemplating is 2 days of chelation pills, then 5 days off. For maybe 5 or 6 weeks? I forget exactly how many weeks. No IV chelation.

My decision is whether to do this and risk the lead going through my 60 year old brain, and measuring that against the risk of leaving it dormant in my bones. I am very protective of my brain, as we all are.

I will investigate every item in every post from all of you, again thank you! If anyone has anything else to add, I'm all ears.
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