got a protocol from a new LLMD input needed! Please

I don't know much about these, as I am going the abx route. But my LLMD recommended Sarsaparilla for herxes. I don't think it kills any bacteria.

If you are trying to avoid abx, have you looked into Cowden or Buhners protocol?

That's what I was about to say - Buhner uses those same herbs. Japanese Knotweed and Cat's claw (he believes the TOA's not in Samento are necessary for healing) are two of the first herbs to start in his protocol.

We always suggest starting out with one drop of a tincture so that the person can slowly increase dosages to avoid a lot of herxing.


If you can read the print online, here's a site where you can see it: buhnerhealinglyme.com/

In case it's needed, I copied and pasted the basic Lyme protocol below, and added extra spacing to see if that would be of help to you:

1. Japanese knotweed root (Polygonum cuspidatum)

• Powder: 1 tsp – 1 TBS of the root powder 3x daily. Start at the lower dose and work up, OR . . .


• Tincture: ¼ – 1 tsp 3-6x daily, OR . . .


• Tablets (Green Dragon Botanicals): These are normally labeled as resveratrol on the bottle. They are in fact knotweed root standardized for resveratrol content. (Note: Don’t use grape resveratrol; it won’t work very well.)



2. Cat’s claw bark (Uncaria tomentosa)


• Powder: 1 tsp 3x daily, OR . . .


• Tincture: ¼ – ½ tsp 3x daily, OR . . .


• Tablets/capsules (Green Dragon Botanicals): 1–4 500 mg tablets/capsules 3x day.



3. Andrographis (Andrographis paniculata)

• Capsules: Begin with a small dose and work up. I would recom­mend 600 mg (1 capsule) 3x daily to

begin with, for one week. Then, if there are no side effects, increase the dose to 2 capsules 3x daily.

Please check the side effects on this herb: Unpleas­ant allergic reactions can occur.



4. If you have neuroborrelliosis, add: Gou-Teng (Uncaria rhynchophylla)

• Tincture: ½ – 1 tsp 3–6x daily, depending on severity of brain infection.



5. Collagen support protocols (see book) are often essential, as well.

You can take them all at once.
If you have a sensitive stomach, you can take them after the meal. Buhner says you can take herbs whenever, it is not related to food.

My advice is to take one herb for a couple of days to see how you react to it. Start out with a VERY low dose and slowly work up before you add the next herb.

This way you see how you handle the herb and also you get to experience how you feel on this herb. It will make it easier as you go to know how each herb makes you feel. Then you can identify if you need to up it or lower it later in your treatment.

Here's for the Japanese Knotweed - I just think you didn't recognize what you were looking at, as it's in that post as well:


1. Japanese knotweed root (Polygonum cuspidatum)

• Powder: 1 tsp – 1 TBS of the root powder 3x daily. Start at the lower dose and work up, OR . . .


• Tincture: ¼ – 1 tsp 3-6x daily, OR . . .


• Tablets (Green Dragon Botanicals): These are normally labeled as resveratrol on the bottle. They are in fact knotweed root standardized for resveratrol content. (Note: Don’t use grape resveratrol; it won’t work very well.)



We generally encourage people to start with tinctures, because you can start on a very low dose and monitor how you are doing as you raise your doses very slowly. You may need more than a couple of days between increasing doses - see how your body responds, and we can be of help if needed.



Once getting up to several drops (7 - 10) of one herb, I encourage people to hold at that dose, and start adding in another of the herbs at very low doses. The herbs work synergistically - that is they empower each other to work better when taken together.


Watch out for herxing though, and hold steady on doses, or lower doses to control herxing - as well as increasing the amount of detoxing you are doing. Again, we can be of help if you have questions as you go through this.

thank you PeteZa and Traveller again!!

Traveller you are so thoughtful. Yes the spacing helps. I wish I could go back to reading like a normal person. Now I feel like I have dyslexia.