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Posted 2/12/2017 1:24 AM (GMT 0)
Hello, I took antibiotics for 6 months and am trying to heal from the damage they did. I did a GI test, and have absolutely zero friendly bacteria Lactobacillus. I know this is not good. Lactobacillus lowers beta glucaronidase, which causes more toxins to circulate that are carcinogenic.

I have taken probiotics to no end. even experiment with high doses, 100 billion 2 times a day. No luck.

I have taken herbs that kill bad bacteria a lot, they have oregano, garlic extract (allicin), olive leaf, caprylic acid, etc.......

could the herbs that I have taken to kill all my bad bacteria be destroying the lactobacillus I am trying to restore in my gut?

Any other suggestions would be great, especially if you have been in this situation before. It has been a year and no luck getting even 1 single Lactobacillus bacteria to stay alive in my gut.
Posted 2/12/2017 1:31 AM (GMT 0)
What type of probiotics have you taken?

Have you changed it up?

sauer kraut, kefir, (I'm not sure if all these have the lactobacillus)...etc.? I haven't checked the label of my kefir.

Maybe different brands of capsules? do you buy the refrigerated ones?

Sorry I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to probitocs.

But, you've given me something to consider (read 'worry about')
Posted 2/12/2017 1:38 AM (GMT 0)
Yes, I have changed it up. But really, a lot of probiotics are the same, with a lot of various species of Lactobacillus and a few others. I am on Ther-biotic, which is refrigerated, which has lots of stuff in it. It is refrigerated.
Posted 2/12/2017 1:43 AM (GMT 0)
Have you tried taking straight Acidophilus?
Posted 2/12/2017 1:47 AM (GMT 0)
No I have not taken straight Acidophilus, but what I have taken has 5 or 6 species of Lacto. which include Acidophilus.

Do you think straight acidophilus will help?
Posted 2/12/2017 1:53 AM (GMT 0)

lymeassassin said...
No I have not taken straight Acidophilus, but what I have taken has 5 or 6 species of Lacto. which include Acidophilus.

Do you think straight acidophilus will help?


There is a product on the market called "Acidophilus Pearls", that is supposed to have a greater chance of making it past digestive acids and reaching the colon.

It does have a little soy in the capsul, so if you have a problem with soy, you might want to be aware of that.
Posted 2/12/2017 2:00 AM (GMT 0)
lymeassassin has anyone told you that you lacking this bacteria is causing you some type of symptoms? i ask because i know we read a lot of things and while much of it is true it doesn't necessarily mean its impacting you in said ways.
Posted 2/12/2017 2:08 AM (GMT 0)
thanks for advice to take acidophilus pearls, I will look into that Julymorning.

Rikky, I have been told the results of antibiotics are that my lactobacillus is wiped out. I've also been told my very high secretory IGA in gut, which happens when there is inflammation in there, is the result of bad bacteria taking over due to lack of good bacteria. I was also told my high level of beta glucaronidase is the result of no lactobacillus. Lacto. helps lower beta glucaronidase. Beta gluca. is bad to have, it recirculates cancerous toxins back into bloodstream. these are the things i was told by MD / lyme doc.
Posted 2/12/2017 2:28 AM (GMT 0)
Yes herbs are bactericidal...some do implants via enema with liquid pbx and others use fmt ...vsl3 is 900 billion ...to make it past stomach acid it must be enterocoated .keep us posted ...
Posted 2/12/2017 3:04 AM (GMT 0)
Blue mentioned FMT - but at this point I think they're only doing that for C-Dificile?

So you may be on your own for that.
Posted 2/12/2017 4:09 AM (GMT 0)
thank you, I am partial to trying the enema suggestion. Please tell me what liquid pbx means.

my preliminary research on probiotic enemas suggest simple procedure of an enema bottle with probiotic dissolved in a few cups of water, retain for 45 minutes or until body absorbs the water.

let me know if that sounds correct.
Posted 2/12/2017 4:27 AM (GMT 0)
pbx = probiotics.

The FMT are not probiotics though..you do know that is something different?
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