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Posted 2/20/2017 2:18 AM (GMT 0)
Tomorrow I begin my babesia protocol which includes mepron, septra, omicef and enula...I do not have the enula (10 drops 2x/day) yet as nowhere sells it locally I had to order it offline and it has not arrived yet. Would it be ok to start with out it? Or should I wait until it gets in to start?
Posted 2/20/2017 3:10 AM (GMT 0)
No, you can definitely wait to start it....in fact you do not want to start everything together.

I suggest you do not take the Mepron, Septra, Omnicef all on the first day....


Start with one - say Omnicef....take it for several days(I'm thinking a week or two)...then add in the Septra...maybe at half dose for a few days before going to full dose. Then after on full dose for a week or two..then Mepron.


Whichever way you decide to do it....one at a time...

That is going to be a 'heavy hitter'

Also - make sure you've got a really, really , really good detox regimen going...multiple methods daily...
Posted 2/20/2017 3:43 AM (GMT 0)
Girlie is 100% right.

One at a time, but Mepron should be the 3rd one you add in, that way you won't push you Babesia towards resistance by taking it alone.

Take 40-50 grams of fat with each Mepron dose.
Posted 2/20/2017 3:49 AM (GMT 0)
Oh, yes the fat with the Mepron - thanks MS.

One of these days, I will be trying the Mepron.
Posted 2/20/2017 5:12 AM (GMT 0)
that's the near exact protocol i started when first treating for babesia and lyme except i took zithro instead of septra. i like septra it has action against all 3 B's and omnicef is one of the top cephalosporins. while no one knows your particulars it could take a few months on this to see some progress (at least it did for me) but lets hope its quicker!
Posted 2/20/2017 2:05 PM (GMT 0)
I've already been on omicef and septra and they told me to take it all at once..
Posted 2/20/2017 4:14 PM (GMT 0)
Oh so you're just adding the Mepron.

How are you doing on the other ones?

Yah, some Dr.s don't appreciate how bad the herxing can be.
Posted 2/20/2017 4:24 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
Oh, yes the fat with the Mepron - thanks MS.

One of these days, I will be trying the Mepron.

Probably a good idea. I'm going to try and and get some to start April. We can do it together smile
Posted 2/20/2017 4:45 PM (GMT 0)

Mustard Seed said...

Girlie said...
Oh, yes the fat with the Mepron - thanks MS.

One of these days, I will be trying the Mepron.

Probably a good idea. I'm going to try and and get some to start April. We can do it together smile

For me, it's a 'challenge' - got one bottle only....

So, if I herx ...then I'll know...and scramble for more.
Posted 2/20/2017 5:02 PM (GMT 0)
Know that you have babesia?


Girlie said...

Mustard Seed said...

Girlie said...
Oh, yes the fat with the Mepron - thanks MS.

One of these days, I will be trying the Mepron.

Probably a good idea. I'm going to try and and get some to start April. We can do it together smile

For me, it's a 'challenge' - got one bottle only....

So, if I herx ...then I'll know...and scramble for more.

Posted 2/20/2017 5:17 PM (GMT 0)
Me or Girlie?

I've been diagnosed clinically by an LLMD.
Negative on Igenex.

But I seem to herx fairly significantly on all med Babesia-related: Malarone, Alinia, Bactrim, Artemisinin, Beyond Balance BAB-2... and not at all on other meds.
Posted 2/20/2017 5:50 PM (GMT 0)
If you mean me - then "Yes"
Posted 2/20/2017 8:19 PM (GMT 0)
Im jumping in here with a question about mepron and eating fat with it. You said 40-50 grams of fat... I have been just eating a spoon of almond butter, but that doesnt sound like enough now that I see what you said... What do people normally eat with it?
Posted 2/20/2017 8:25 PM (GMT 0)
One tbsp peanut butter is 16 grams of fat.

Can you eat 2 1/2 Tbsp?
Posted 2/20/2017 10:34 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
One tbsp peanut butter is 16 grams of fat.

Can you eat 2 1/2 Tbsp?

There's 16g of fat in 2tbsp of peanut butter.

So you'd have to eat 5 tablespoons to get adequate fat.

Milk and nuts have some decent fat as well.

My thing (not the healthiest) was doing them with fatty meats like pepperoni, salami, etc.
I really like pepperettes, each one has 9g of fat.

Again, not super healthy, but I definitely got my fat smile
Posted 2/20/2017 10:55 PM (GMT 0)
I was going to suggest avocado and hard boiled egg, but that only got to 36. And a bit daunting if you have to do that 2 or 3 times a day!

If dairy wasn't a problem, I would go right to cheese with the avocado. Or a few slices of bacon.
Posted 2/20/2017 11:19 PM (GMT 0)

Mustard Seed said...

Girlie said...
One tbsp peanut butter is 16 grams of fat.

Can you eat 2 1/2 Tbsp?

There's 16g of fat in 2tbsp of peanut butter.

So you'd have to eat 5 tablespoons to get adequate fat.

Milk and nuts have some decent fat as well.

My thing (not the healthiest) was doing them with fatty meats like pepperoni, salami, etc.
I really like pepperettes, each one has 9g of fat.

Again, not super healthy, but I definitely got my fat smile

OOPS! Yes, you're right...it's 16 g in 2 Tbsp....
Posted 2/20/2017 11:59 PM (GMT 0)

julymorning said...
I was going to suggest avocado and hard boiled egg, but that only got to 36. And a bit daunting if you have to do that 2 or 3 times a day!

If dairy wasn't a problem, I would go right to cheese with the avocado. Or a few slices of bacon.

For what it's worth, it doesn't NEED to be exactly 40 or 50g.

All we know is that 23g of fat increases absorption vs fasting, and 46g of fat increases absorption vs 23g.

The gain in absorption from fasting to 23g is larger than the gain from 23g to 46g.

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2125.1994.tb04232.x/pdf
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