Just worked out with the heaviest weights in 15-20 yrs, twice this week, normal soreness, no pain

It appears I just bumped up to a new healing level, well, as far as strength gains with out pain. I felt stuck for the last two months. Not only was this more weight moved since the late 1990's, but it was done very comfortably. Minimal uneven muscle tension and only one day of rest in between. That was IMPOSSIBLE before with half the weight in the last decade, and I'd "lock up" with MS like tightness for a week after.

I think the topical magnesium cream from CALM seems to help actual muscle healing, not just feels good, it really seems to do something. I loosen my past knotted areas (if present, they melt away in under 1 minute now), then apply the mag cream all before the workout. With this, the muscles have full ranger of motion, which allows for EVEN left to right contraction and.......proper symmetrical healing. I mix up 20 grams of plant based non soy, non dairy, gluten free protein before working out in the PM and then again the following morning. NO stomach upset with this protein powder type, no gas at all. Milk based and "Whey" protein sucks big time!

One thing I've learned when "rebuilding" a completely ms like stiff body is you cant do it if you hurt (must repeat manual muscle release, trigger point ect - (my other past posts), and you need to address the body in parts before you work out every thing together - in order to know what area if causing the issues. If you had a bad reaction from a whole handful of new supplements, which ones did it? - same deal.

Out of all the PT type people I've met in all these years, NONE of them know what I've learned on my own. NONE. I realize there are very few with my past ms like ridged muscle symptoms, but wish I could be of some help to them, since they most likely wont find it from the medical community. From 2006-2010 I could not walk 1/4 mile with out limping in pain. Almost every morning getting out of bed was painfull, not sore/achy, but pain.

What Conventional Drs said:
-"fibromyalgia"
-"stiff person syndrome" , you can goggle it LOL
-"delayed onset muscle soreness" , as if thats like being handicap? -I think NOT
-"your getting old"- I am 50 now, not back then though!
-"you athletically abuse your body and will have permanent muscle pain forever" -wrong
-"your fine, its just in your head" ect.

Ive had my share of decades of motorcycle and bicycle racing injuries but nothing major, and would always get repetitive motion injuries from the simplest things. Nothing healed right, no matter what I tried in the past. Oddly, soft tissue got ropy, lumpy, ridged, crackly, noisy and weak. Even though I looked somewhat "ripped" on the outside, my insides were deteriorating, pain everyday.

My LLMD said give it a year after ABX and eat healthy, cut out all the crap..........I just passed the two year point a bit ago.

I still have more body work to do, and dont get why I still have some fatigue, that said, I'll sleep great tonight. My new C4a was awesome, and one thyroid antibody normalized after 15 years, but the stuborn CD57 only improved a little.

Post Edited (astroman) : 4/27/2017 12:28:43 AM (GMT-6)

Good to hear! Gives me some hope. Ever since starting mino and rifampin (normal doses, week on, week off) I havent been able to work out. Not sure what, if anything, they may be causing, but I constantly am back and forth between sciatic type pain and plain lower back pain just above my tail bone. It gets so bad that im limping.

I havent been consistant with working out, and weight levels are really low, mostly body weight exercise and under. My core muscles feel so sloppy. For some reason (maybe not being as active?) my glutes and hamstrings disappeared. My legs are pathetic. Upper pecs, gone, lats gone, triceps...gone.

At 165lbs, it amazes me I still do more at work than guys twice my size. But I pay for it in pain ever single day. I have no choice though. Being single, my income is it. I pay for planet fitness every month, but havent gone in almost 4 months now. Any exercise is at home, or walking. Like I said though, since starting mino and rifampin, nothing. Seems like they took all my pain and dumped it on my lower back.

Its depressing. At 46, I didnt think id feel this old. But hey, enough about me. Good job on your accomplishment. Keep on keepin on!

Astro! Awesome! How totally inspirational!

My upper body neck/ shoulders/arms feels pretty good today, somewhat energized in a calm way too.

Funny how topical mag still gets into your blood stream, wont effect your gut though like oral mag in pills. Glutes are a little stiff, the bigger the muscle, the longer to fix.

astroman said...
Ive had my share of decades of motorcycle and bicycle racing injuries but nothing major, and would always get repetitive motion injuries from the simplest things. Nothing healed right, no matter what I tried in the past. Oddly, soft tissue got ropy, lumpy, ridged, crackly, noisy and weak. Even though I looked somewhat "ripped" on the outside, my insides were deteriorating, pain everyday.

Congrats on your conditioning astroman! Thanks for the hope. How is your cardio exercise ability coming along? Had you ever lost that from this disease? What about your flexibility?

Jeez, this sounds a lot like me. I've had poor flexibility as far back as I can remember, I'm 61. I just looked up the stiff person syndrome and I've a few of those symptoms that have puzzled me, like the startle reflex, posture, and hyper tonicity of the back muscles. I've been very active, energetic, and functional up til last September when my chronic illness set in. Now, a walk through costco is a real big deal.

I'll never know for certain when I contracted Lymeco, but it makes me wonder maybe I've been subclinical for years. At times I thought my musculoskeletal pains, stiffness and repetitive strain injuries were the residual price of the motocross years. I've gone from 166lbs down to 145 lbs with my ribs showing. (I'm 5-10) My mantra of hope is that I'll rise from these ashes and rebuild myself to better than before. Bjd 2.0 if you will. Patience.....

Thanks again for sharing.

Hey Astroman, this is good to hear!

I recently upped my magnesium by adding about 2 grams of Epsom Salts to each liter of water I drink. I only started religiously about 2 days ago as I was trying to battle my inflammation with diet change and anything else I could think of.

To be fair I also upped the omega 3s to large doses 5-8 grams per day. I've been eating mostly bland.

Today I am noticing way less inflammation.

I went out to lunch to get some good bone broth chicken soup at a local restaurant and the waitress misunderstood us and brought us two chicken and rice lunches.

Not being proficient in Spanish enough to complain, I said screw it I will eat it and see if the meat protein leads to inflammation. It did not !

I am having one of the best mostly pain free days in a very long time and am very encouraged by this!

Cheers!

Post Edited (ChickenArise) : 4/27/2017 4:13:46 PM (GMT-6)

astroman said...
BJD55- on cardio; I did have air hunger at times mnt biking, last time was as few yrs ago.

My cardio is better than average naturally so I dont really work on that,plus since I dont compete in anything anymore I go at my own pace. I just build up naturally to whatever seasonal sport I'm doing; x-c ski, pedal biking, snow shoeing ect. I only do indoor stationery bike for weight warm ups, as to not waist time I stand, not sit.

I am now very flexable once I'm warmed up. I was not in my darkest days (15 yrs)as I could not loosen up, when I say I was ridged, I'm not exaggerating. All my variations of myofacial and trigger point release realy started working better after ABX. I do that stuff 2x a day thats what makes me regain flexibility. Its like peeling away an onion. I do regular stretching at work when no ones looking. Stretching did not work in the past.

I know quite a few past riders/racers who are not in pain. Some crashed worse than I did. They didnt get repetitive motion injuries and we did the same stuff. Some are still doing it in the old guy classes.

Okay, so your cardio is fine. My resting pulse before all this started was about 60. Now, I get moments where it's back down in the mid 60's, but more often than not its closer to 80.it can be 90+ when I'm herxing. I can only walk short distances now. I can get in my training zone by walking across the street. My pcp says your pulse is in the "average range". Yeah, right.

I'm hoping my fascia become more compliant to stretching and body work once I get these bugs under control. I've got a referral for pt but haven't started yet. I walk with a pronounced limp from angry pyriformis and sciatic pain. I don't know how useful it will be as exercise and exertion are limited by fatigue.

Yeah, a couple of my mx buds from back in the 70's are still at it. They're beat to $&%@#, eat advil like candy, but still riding.

Post Edited (BJD55) : 4/27/2017 5:57:38 PM (GMT-6)

Congrats on that! Awesome!

Congratulations, astroman. It's always a great feeling when I see positive posts. You have been a trooper and a big help to many of us. Wishing you more continued healing.

Patty

What is the protein powder you are taking? Super curious.

I am so happy for you. You have had enough yuck and deserve the good stuff.

I also am going to get some of that mag cream! I will add it to my sports gel and nerve cream collection. LOL

I am back on my bike. Not my mountain bike. I bought a step in old ladies bike. Still all the gears, but a nice seat and no arched back. Just what a 66 year old woman needs. I am healed a year and can see this summer getting back on the mountain bike.... maybe. We have very remote trails and I worry about major injuries being so far out with no cell reception.... so I say maybe. I don't lift. I tone with girl weights and love it. It feels good to make those parts work again. I lost a lot being sick.

I am proud of your accomplishments. You also are a great inspiration to us all to get moving!

Awesome!!!

PeteZa - I think the Calm mag cream in a little (tub) is more effective than the Procure Epsom salt gel in a tube. But the later being a gel goes in deeper. Aloe or arnica or even the Epsom gel will help the mag cream go deeper.

I'm using two plant based protein powders that are "anti-everything". Both from a.......walmart store! Yep wallyworld.........., I disappointed a friend who works in a "muscle store" she'll get over it!. Plant based proteins are usually quite expensive. I compared them with more vitamin store type brands and are just as good, but obviously cost less per protein gram:

1) Purley Inspireded Organic Protien, 100% plant based non - GMO (and not soy or gluten). about $19 for 18 20g servings.

2) Another one in a zip bag; Muscletech six star protien smoothie, similar ingreadiants to above, $10 for 11 15g servings. Both have digestive enzymes and probiotics in them, which might be helping with the "zero gas" effect.

I'm sure the above is less online.

I can tell a slight difference with or with out these, so they do help. Plus I dont want a lot of meat protein in me all the time. Ive used egg protien powder in the past, that was still better on the gut than milk based or Whey protien but costly.
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Glad you can ride now!!

I can canoe a lot better now (shoulders) and would like to do some Boundary Waters canoeing (heaven) this summer, but unfortunately my friends are getting old and lazy.,,,,,with no excuse!. Very few ticks there and never seen a deer tick in that huge wilderness area, and as you might guess....... no cell reception....or towers either the farther you go. So yes, like the wests remote mnts, you cant get hurt, easily to forget that. No one wants to pay for a helicopter ride where there's no roads either.

Would like to learn how to ski skate (the fast x-c skiing) efficiently if my hips/legs are up to it next winter. Cant do that with unbalanced muscle issues, you need a fine tuned body to do it, unlike traditional x-c ski that anyone can do.

life is short, I need a longer lease! (we both do).

summer- ha ha..I'm one of those who grazes all day long,........ and I will have a small portion of meat and or nuts at the end of breakfast.

I dont eat real big meals, but when I'm hungry, I have to eat.

Even with hashimoto, I seem to have a good metabolism with body size/weight - but I've been active my whole life starting as as kid, there might be something to that (?).

Cutting out a lot of carbs from eating paleo does make me more hungry though.

I have studded both cons and pros to paleo vs carb diets there is no great answer. We need to experiment on our own.

What I dont like about carbs is it feeds all the bad bugs in our guts, if one bloats, thats whats going on- the new age health dietitians and food scientists never mention that part. Something lymies need to consider.

I try not to include fruits with bigger portions of meat, as meat will double the fruit glucose level in your blood. When I do with smaller portions, I eat fruit first since that digests faster than meat. Meat first is not good. Veggies first is good.

Prob have 4 eggs, sweet peppers and a salad for dinner with dairy/soy/gluten free ranch. Ranch is from walmart $3.50. Not all wallyworlds are the same though.

AK - I ended my treatment of four ABX two years ago. Have not taken anything that kills stuff since then.

Food is what Ive done since then:

1)re-concentrated on eating for gut health (leaky gut/candida elimination).

2)then on food to eliminate SIBO

3)Then continuous maintenance paleo and no dairy or glutan for overall body health anti-inflammation (but I do eat some meat). I have gut reactions to ANY form of animal milk products. Terry Wahls is similar but more veggies and only organ meat as meat. Dont think she even had chicken.

Had one beer since new years. No other alcohol or mind altering substances, Rx. legal or illegal LOL.

I just did labs too: My thyroid TPO antibodies are gone. C4a complimentary inflammatory marker went from 55,000 to 1400. CD57 is still only 44 from mid-thirties last year and 24 two years ago. Waiting on another test pruvate/lactate ratio- has to do with muscle wasting some how.

I'd really like some popcorn and a beer again right now......oh well...........

I did get some organic corn chips- only half way cheating.

I will not eat Monsanto poisoned field corn anymore, thats the same as drinking Roundup Herbicide. I'll decide on the 4th of July if I should try organic corn on the cob or not- but you cant label that, so how do you know- YOU DONT! How does it not get mixed up in the store? Never seen organic corn on the cob at road side farmers hut/pickup sale, even then, how do you know?