feel worse - epsom salt bath

Good post sayyadina—echo the "too much" concept.

Olive Leaf Extract is an immune booster so you likely have a herx from its effectiveness.
Maybe tak a little less and definitely step the detox baths down a couple notches…

Hope you are feeling better—let us know!

-p

I tried the epsom bath for the first time about a month ago. I loved it. I fell asleep in the bath and felt totally refreshed but tired too since it was the end of the day. I slept like a lamb. Wife added some hydrogen peroxide to the bath too. This bath did help in bringing down the swelling of my right knee down a bit too, but in the long run now, nothing seems to be helping restore my right knee or my right elbow to full function as before i started supplement treatment a year ago. I wish i could walk again without pain in the knee and be without elbow / shoulder pain continuously. Nothing seems to work. sigh xfmlg

Would taking aspirin have any neggative affects? Since a herx would be cause of the inflammation, would aspirin affect the die off or is it fine?

Actually, an antihistamine like Benedryl would work- as it calms the CNS - or Alka Seltzer Gold works as long as you can take aspirin.

I always caution people to only stay in the bath for 7 -10 minutes and keep the water luke warm only to help avoid these types of reactions. You can either slow things way down or go to foot soaks for a while as those are usually better tolerated, but realize they don't move as many toxins, so you will need to do a lot more to detox.

I know for me, I don't use the full body detox soaks for that reason - they make me herx by mobilizing too many toxins into the blood stream and my body can't detox them fast enough - so I herx.

It's likely a combination of moving too many toxins from the tissues to the blood stream and the heat of the bath killing off more bacteria that made you feel so bad. It all worked to create a herx where familiar symptoms can increase and new symptoms can pop up.

You can try a foot soak instead using the Epsom salts and peroxide and see how you do - but still, no more than 10 -15 minutes with your feet in the water! I can now leave my feet in the water until it turns quite cool, but I've detoxed my rear off (I wish that was literal!!) the last few months.

We are all so very different. I cannot even take a warm shower once a day. I still have to take cool showers. Hot or even warm water wipes me out still.

I assume you want to take a Epsom salt bath everyday because you feel better when you take them. And you will be the only one that can judge that.

If it is for detoxing, you know there are many other detox methods that you could do in lieu of the bath.

Try it out and see how you do with 5 minutes everyday and then slowly go up.

So many trial and errors with the lyme stuff.

I try to take them every day....at a minimum, I will have 5 epsom baths per week.

Sometimes I will even have two in a particularly bad day.

Thanks again. I am going t o do a bath today-so I will keep you guys posted.

rjb

Does he have other pains? I had head pain and an ice pack wrapped in a towel didn't feel freezing to me. In a normal situation I could have only tolerated that cold ice pack for a few minutes. With lyme I could have held that ice pack (wrapped in a towel) on me all day.

Maybe a good test.

I really think lyme messes with our body in so many ways and mine was temperatures. I love being cool and so have a hard time with hot.

I noticed that even BBQing I had to get a longer handled spatula because the heat of the bbq (which has always been the same temp) became too hot to put my skin near.

When I took epsom salt baths, I would feel horrendously tired and feel dizzy. Maybe the water was too hot, maybe I stayed in too long.

Now I just do epsom slat foot soaks and have no troubles. Not saying peoole should not do the baths, but that was my own experience.

Actually, it is part of a Mast Cell issue, but that's what herxing is - a more minor issue with mast cells. A more serious issue will have a person starting to feel an anaphylactic type reaction.

The Epsom salt soaks can release too many toxins from the tissues, and dump them into our bloodstream, and that's where our bodies start to have issues if we aren't good detoxers. The body begins to get overwhelmed with the toxins in the bloodstream and simply can't detox them out fast enough. The "common name" that has been put to this is 'over detoxing': www.tiredoflyme.com/4-reasons-why-you-still-feel-bad-despite-detoxing.html

Making sure that your liver is well supported, as well as the kidneys, and the bowels will go a long way towards settle down a herx, but binders are really good during times of over detoxing.

There actually was a time I could soak in a tub filled hot water and Epsom salts/peroxide, so I'm not sure what changed, but I can no longer use them and have to stick with only foot soaks.