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Posted 5/16/2017 1:51 PM (GMT 0)
I also need guidance on the next step!

I am currently doing a parasite cleanse (to end in two more weeks).

THEN, I had planned to start Samsura powder biofilm buster, and then Samsura's Buhner lyme powder.

BUT - that was BEFORE I knew about Dr. Sara Jernigan's program, and read a lot of good reviews from people who said they were really helped by it.

NOW, I'm wondering if should just forget the Samsura Buhner lyme powder, and do Dr. Jernigan's system.

ANOTHER THING - I have been using cryptolepsis since last February. I use about 8 drops daily, spread out over the day. (Only way I can handle it.) BUT - it has made a huge difference for me, in energy, and clearing my thinking. I can't even function WITHOUT the cryptolepsis.

My goal is to try to do the most economical thing that will bring the most healing the quickest. (Please do not suggest that I find a good LLMD, I am self-navigating at this time. AND, I have you guys!)

So the following are my questions:

1. Should I go ahead and use the Samsura Buhner lyme powder? (And continue using cryptolepsis.)
2. Should I go ahead and use the Samsura Buhner lyme powder, AND add reishi and silvercillin along with it, hoping for more effectiveness? (Those are two things Dr. Nicholas Hedberg uses to treat lyme. I tried one bottle of the silvercillin, it seemed to help, BUT it required a LOT for me to feel a difference.)
2. Should I forget the Samsura Buhner lyme powder, and just do Dr. Jernigan's system? (And continue using cryptolepsis.)
Posted 5/16/2017 2:37 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not sure about the protocols but I'm on crypto plus from Research Nutritionals. I take 60 drops 2x/day so you may want to increase your crypto.
Posted 5/16/2017 3:32 PM (GMT 0)
ChickNorris,
My body can't detox well enough to handle that many drops of crypto. (OR ANYTHING). I must have burned holes in my stomach from decades of taking NSAIDS for dysmennorrhea (not now, I'm 62). So I simply can't tolerate the normal amount of anything or it leaves me bedridden and nonfunctional.

I am fastidious about everything now (have been for three years) - diet, supplementation, low stress lifestyle, no alcohol, etc. BUT - evidently once your stomach is in tatters from NSAIDS, it just can't be repaired.

SO - I don't know if that is a factor that could be a major hindrance in more recovery.
Posted 5/16/2017 3:40 PM (GMT 0)
I went on my own with herbs. It can be done!

My advice is that only you know your body and what it can handle. There is nothing wrong with trying something and deciding it isn't for you.

No two of us have healed the same way with the same dosages. It is all trial and error.

So in essence I am of no help to you. I am cautious of acting like a doctor.

You have to be your own doctor and your own patient. And, just like a doctor, you will have to guess what to do and see if it works.

I found that when I took something and it was not right for me, I found out right away. I put it back in the cupboard and decided I would try it again at a later date.

Go with your gut instincts and remember, you can always change.
Posted 5/16/2017 3:41 PM (GMT 0)
I'm also doing the recommended detox - epsom salt baths daily, lemon water, burbur/pinella drops, walk daily for 40 minutes.

Epsom salt baths leave me dizzy and ill. SO, I MUST be SEVERELY toxic. If I completely detoxed, I am sure it would kill me. Which sometimes I think would be preferable smile
Posted 5/16/2017 3:43 PM (GMT 0)
I could not do even the simple epsom salt foot baths..... so I did other detoxing. Not all detoxing is for everyone either.

Lyme is very individualistic.

You get your very own "special" lyme when you get it. Said in my snarky voice.
Posted 5/16/2017 3:48 PM (GMT 0)
PeteZa,
I have read ALL of Dr. Rawls' web site!

He is a GREAT INSPIRATION!! He completely defies traditional thinking on lyme treatment. AND, I considered using his program. BUT - I noticed ONE of the supplements in his program contains NIACIN, and I am horrendously allergic to niacin.

BUT, it's still a consideration. I COULD try just his supplement that combines all the herbs.
Posted 5/16/2017 3:51 PM (GMT 0)
Since you're having trouble with detoxing, check into caring for your liver. Milk thistle and dandelion are supplements that can help. Castor oil packs have helped me. Liver flushes can also help. Doing the Hulda Clark / Andreas Moritz type flush can be effective but really unpleasant. Lately, I've been doing egg yolk and lime liver flushes (you can google it), and they've been helping a lot. They're much easier to do, too!
Posted 5/16/2017 3:56 PM (GMT 0)
PeteZa,
One lovely thing that has developed in last three months for me is my severe foot swelling.

I am taking Lion's Mane (three weeks) as Traveler suggested, but the swelling still has not subsided. Reviewers say to give the Lion's Mane 1.5 months to work.

I THINK this is an indication that my lyme has progressed to a more advanced stage.

I am praying that as I start treatment, the swelling may subside. BUT, this is why I am soldiering on with the epsom salt baths. I MUST try to get some of these toxins out of my body.
Posted 5/16/2017 4:00 PM (GMT 0)
Nosila,
I know you're right about the liver.

BUT, I tried milk thistle twice in the last two weeks, and developed a blood clot in my leg. (evidently it can be a side effect of milk thistle).

I'm now taking a blood clot reducer potion, praying that the clot dissolves. I DO NOT want to go to the doctor and get coumadin and a pacemaker.

My body is a real PIP!!
Posted 5/16/2017 4:02 PM (GMT 0)
I will investigate the flushes, THANKS!
Posted 5/16/2017 4:03 PM (GMT 0)

Klagh said...
PeteZa,
I have read ALL of Dr. Rawls' web site!

He is a GREAT INSPIRATION!! He completely defies traditional thinking on lyme treatment. AND, I considered using his program. BUT - I noticed ONE of the supplements in his program contains NIACIN, and I am horrendously allergic to niacin.

BUT, it's still a consideration. I COULD try just his supplement that combines all the herbs.

I did not use his program. However, I did use his herbal protocol in his book, which is pretty much the same as Buhners.

If you can soldier on with the epsom salt baths, more power to you. They made me sick to my stomach, dizzy and I could not soldier on. There were tooo many other alternatives, and I never soldier on. Soldiering on is not for me. I do not believe pain or discomfort is relative to healing. If it didn't feel good, taste good or seems helpful, I did not do it. Stubborn old woman here. LOL

Same holds true for my husband who is now treating. The least bit of an indication that it isn't right and we stop that herb for him. Too many alternatives and discomfort is not a sign that something is working in the herb world. Totally just my opinion.
Posted 5/16/2017 4:20 PM (GMT 0)
PeteZa,
Good perspective and info!

My heart and sympathy go out to your poor husband!! He's lucky to have you helping him!! Tell him I said that. smile

I DO take binders, 4 activated charcoal caps daily.
Posted 5/16/2017 4:25 PM (GMT 0)
PeteZa,
I thought about getting a sauna for detox. But I'm wondering if the heat would cause me to experience the same dizziness and nausea I have from the Epsom salt bath.

Did you/do you use a sauna?
Posted 5/16/2017 4:32 PM (GMT 0)
PeteZa,
What other things did you use to detox?
Posted 5/16/2017 4:33 PM (GMT 0)
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3602759

a great thread on detoxing.
Posted 5/16/2017 5:48 PM (GMT 0)

Klagh said...
Nosila,
I know you're right about the liver.

BUT, I tried milk thistle twice in the last two weeks, and developed a blood clot in my leg. (evidently it can be a side effect of milk thistle).

I'm now taking a blood clot reducer potion, praying that the clot dissolves. I DO NOT want to go to the doctor and get coumadin and a pacemaker.

My body is a real PIP!!

How frustrating, I don't blame you at all for being cautious! I would be, too.

Do consider trying a castor oil pack. They're very gentle, and you can leave them on for as long or as short a time as you need. Also, you could check into Karen Hurd's bean diet, which is supposed to be a gentle way of detoxing the liver and gall bladder.
Posted 5/16/2017 6:06 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for your help and replies Nosila!

Best to you.
Posted 5/16/2017 6:13 PM (GMT 0)
Nosila thank you for the info on the bean diet. I love the diet.
Posted 5/16/2017 9:06 PM (GMT 0)
I thought beans was off our diet list due to the carb content?

Patty
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