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Posted 5/16/2017 11:15 AM (GMT 0)
What do you do?

I've been using sprays, sinus rinses, and have an air filter in my room. I try to get out as much as possible, as well. Currently, I can't move or afford any remediation efforts. I've thought about trying to remediate myself, but I'm not sure. The mold would be in a hard-to-reach attic crawl space, and I worry that it's seeped in between support beams of the house.

Just wondering if you guys had any tips for other efforts I could make.
Posted 5/16/2017 12:37 PM (GMT 0)
What dr. K's practitioners were recommending years ago, was a simple propolis diffuser.
Simply speaking, they placed some bee wax with propolis on a candle and let it diffuse the substances in the air.

Propolis is natural and is known to kill many types of critters: bacteria, viruses, mold, fungi. A very wide spectrum substance, maybe the only one in nature that is so wide spectrum.

I read recently, if I'm not mixing up things in my head, that dr. K. is proposing people to do dissentization (if this word exists...) from the mold you are allergic to.

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If you know where the mold is, I would ask someone that is NOT allergic, to go there, collect the mold, then prepare an homeopathic dilution with that exact mold!

I can't guarantee this will work for mold, but I've been using homeopathic dilutions of pollen, house dust, food, anything causing allergies for many years, with 95% of success.

Of course, the allergy may return after months or years, but you get sort of immunized for months. It takes very little time to do that.

Dr. K uses that for pollen or dust, for example. It works much better than NAET type of dissentization, but not for all substances (like wheat, milk...)

But dr. K was speaking of a more medical procedure I think (not homeopathy, if I remember well). I'll see if I find something, then post here again.

Post Edited (Jinna) : 5/16/2017 6:57:19 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/16/2017 12:46 PM (GMT 0)
Google Healing the Brain and Mold, by Dr. David Ou, 2015.

There is a PDF file that will download, first page called
Water Damaged Buildings and Mold... David Ou, MD

Page 66 suggests that HEPA filters may help
Page 67 talks about that bee propolis vaporizers.
www.beehealthyfarms.com
(these are long used by many dr K's practitioners here in Europe).

And a spray with innoculations of molds: called EM-1 Microbial Inoculant by Teraganix: spray once a week, that may reduce micotoxins

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http://www.betterhealthguy.com/klinghardt-conference-lyme-and-other-chronic-infections

Well, dr. K DOES suggest that we take the dust from the vacuum cleaner to prepare an homeopathic dilution!!!

"Taking dust out of the vacuum and creating a homeopathic dilution may be helpful for some.", he said!!

I did that once with dust found in the bedroom only, and I do think it helped my daughter. She always had a stuck nose in the morning. I think now she's much better (she never complained anymore).

I'll ask her again to be sure.
Posted 5/16/2017 12:55 PM (GMT 0)
I found it: it is called Low Dose Immunotherapy.

It can be used for lyme or mold:
https://restormedicine.com/low-dose-immunotherapy-new-therapy-for-lyme-disease-treatment-available-at-restormedicine/

This place seems to offer treatments.
Posted 5/16/2017 1:29 PM (GMT 0)
Option 1: Gas house in tent of Chlorine Dioxide. This is highly toxic and kills mold and is best left to professionals. All living material must be out for 12 hours minimum.

Option 2: Purchase a Cold Fogger machine and 1 Gallon Hospital Grade Sanitizer and 1 Gallon Concrobium Mold Spray. While wearing N95 rated ventilated mask, goggles, gloves manually Fog all rooms with Sanitizer on Medium output setting. This way you can direct it onto all ceiling surfaces and walls and conserve the amount used.
Try to plan your movement so you don't paint yourself into a corner. The enzyme and Concobium is non toxic. Breathed it myself. The hospital sanitizer is toxic.

If you are chemically sensitive use the non toxic combo: Enzyme Cleaner followed by Concrobium mold spray and place a week in between sprayings to give the enzymes a chance to work.
Rinse Fog unit between uses.

If cost is still concern you can just use the Concrobium. All items available on ebay or amazon.

get the HEPA filter, Theres an inexpensive on made by Hamilton Beach that has a reusable filter.

If there is a leak you must fix this or your efforts will be in vain.
Posted 5/16/2017 1:31 PM (GMT 0)
Jinna, thanks for mold document info.

Good suggestions everyone. People also diffuse thieves oil but I haven't tried it.
Posted 5/16/2017 5:17 PM (GMT 0)
I would not mess around and would either treat the reason for the mold, or move out. I've used concrobium but it doesn't work unless you get to the source, reason for moisture. Also I would consider diffusing Thieves, my friends mold remediator said that works well but of course you have to get to the root first. Then you can actually spray the mold with straight Thieves and it is supposed to not release mycotoxins (like ammonia). But I'd personally rather live on the street than in mold bc it makes us very, very sick. I think I have the genetic marker that makes me more susceptible as does dd.
Posted 5/16/2017 7:23 PM (GMT 0)
Very interesting, Jinna. Also, ChickenArise. Option two seems possible.

Though, like healthexpander said, I'm not sure if the reason for the moisture has been completely fixed. The roof was "repaired," but I still smell things, whenever it rains. It sounds crazy. I can smell it, though.

I haven't bothered contacting any mold remediation specialists in the area, because it's just not an option right now, however detrimental to my health. I've heard the price could be as low as a few hundred dollars, but it could also be into the thousands. Moving certainly isn't available to me either. I would be states away from Iowa, if it were.

Plus, I'm helped a lot by the relative I live with. She supports me while I put all my income towards getting better and going to school. I suppose I could live in the dorms or take out student loans for remediation, but that's such a stretch. I hate being in debt.

The mold is a huge issue, you're right. I wish I could escape it, but I can't, short of sleeping outside or something.

Maybe it'll have to come to that?

I don't know.

Thinking about it, IF mold really is a big problem for me, and I think it is, there's really no way for me to get better with it still having such a presence in my home. Speaking of the HEPA filter, my LLMD told me to get one, but then said she'd heard of people putting filters onto box fans, which I've done. It's a $20 filter, man. I imagine it's doing SOMETHING. Though, again, if the mold is here and active, just filtering it from the air won't help me get better on its own. I need to do something. I just don't know when it's gonna be able to happen.

Thanks, guys

Post Edited (NotQuiteAntonio) : 5/16/2017 1:37:17 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/16/2017 9:34 PM (GMT 0)
I don't think you should remediate yourself - especially if it could possibly be making you sick.
Posted 5/17/2017 3:57 AM (GMT 0)

ChickenArise said...
Jinna, thanks for mold document info.

Good suggestions everyone. People also diffuse thieves oil but I haven't tried it.

a little electronic ozone machine has helped too
Posted 5/17/2017 11:53 AM (GMT 0)

k07 said...
I don't think you should remediate yourself - especially if it could possibly be making you sick.

Well, how much worse would it be for me than choosing to live with it? What ChickenArise suggested doesn't seem like it'd be particularly expensive, at least not compared to the price of remediation. That's only killing the mold, though. The issue of water getting in is still a problem. The roof was fixed, like I said, but there must be some type of very minor gaps or something that allows moisture in. Not enough to allow pools of water in, I hope, but condensation. I'm not sure how I'd remedy that. Are any roofs airtight? Ours would probably need to be replaced completely. Expensive.

How much worse do you think it'd be? The concentration of spores would be much higher at the source, I guess. I was just thinking of throwing the fogger in the attic crawlspace, then dipping out. BYE, MOLDIES.

I doubt we could replace the roof, but I feel like I could manage getting a fogger and spraying rooms every month or so.

Lots of thinking out loud, sorry.

Tenks, guys
Posted 5/18/2017 12:31 PM (GMT 0)
I hear that diffusing thieves essential oil can also be helpful
Posted 5/18/2017 3:39 PM (GMT 0)

bluelyme said...

ChickenArise said...
Jinna, thanks for mold document info.

Good suggestions everyone. People also diffuse thieves oil but I haven't tried it.

a little electronic ozone machine has helped too

Yes, we used this to blast the hell out of it. Had forgotten about this. I paid $80 for a 5000 ppm commercial ozone generator which I thought was a bargain then.

I have recently seen the same for $20 on ebay. Get one!

Just be out of the house when you use it.
Posted 5/18/2017 5:02 PM (GMT 0)

NotQuiteAntonio said...
What do you do?

I've been using sprays, sinus rinses, and have an air filter in my room. I try to get out as much as possible, as well. Currently, I can't move or afford any remediation efforts. I've thought about trying to remediate myself, but I'm not sure. The mold would be in a hard-to-reach attic crawl space, and I worry that it's seeped in between support beams of the house.

Just wondering if you guys had any tips for other efforts I could make.


Do you have single pane aluminum frame windows in your house? Those are major mold magnets.
Posted 5/18/2017 6:19 PM (GMT 0)

NotQuiteAntonio said...

Are any roofs airtight? Ours would probably need to be replaced completely. Expensive.

You don't want the roofs to be airtight - you need ventilation to prevent mold.
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