Bill Rawls, Buhner Protocol or Cowden protocol??

Cokie - I decided to go the route of the Buhner protocol because I had heard it was the least expensive.
I have done many things in addition to this along the way, including Chinese herbs, and in January I began to take Chronic Tonic. Yes, I herxed, which I welcomed in that it was feedback that the herbs were getting at something. Yes, I've gotten better! For the past month and a half I cut way back on what I was taking in way of herbs and completely let go of my strict nutrition regime. I am listening to my intuition and getting back on track. Do you know how to do muscle or energy testing? A way of asking yourself which protocol would work best for you? Whenever I was in a state of not knowing, I'd use the sway version of the process. There is a ton of stuff on youtube. here is one link /www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ikRMlI-jY. What I would do in the market is hold the supplement and ask my body, do you want this? Will this help? If I got a yes, I'd go through with the purchase.

Cokie, I did Buhner's protocol because it was buying herbs and not buying from a particular person.

I absolutely love Rawls book and his information. It is the top dog in my book. But, I am not sure about the VitalPlan. I have absolutely no information about it. It came about just about the time I was healed from the Buhner's protocol.

Now I must add that along with the Buhner's protocol I began with Beyond Balance, Mc-BB-1 and Tox Ease GL. I am totally convinced that those really helped me. I actually started with Beyond Balance and noticed I was getting better. I was too impatient to just do those 2 tinctures. I read a lot and found that the majority of people on the internet were healing with Buhner's at the time I was researching. So I added in his protocol.

Hubby did the same thing that I did and he is healed also.

We both eat super clean, we both have been detoxing for years before lyme and we both have no stress or responsibilities..... I am so sure that this is why we both healed so quickly. We don't have to do anything if we don't want to.

I am amazed you did all that on your own.. I feel I need a coach or a doctor guiding me because of the herxing I hear so much about. So you did those supplements while doing the Buhner protocol? Thank you so much for this great information and so glad you and your hubby are healed...👍💝

Does he have a "formula" for Bartonella and Babesia? (Rawls)

Not for Bart,myco, erlichia or brucella or even rmsf but he does add artemisia for Babs but says how toxic it can be.

In an effort to simplify, I am going to take just the immune builder from Rawls as well as individual tinctures that Buhner recommends. Rawls program is a ton of pills, I tried it last summer. The one formula didn't agree with me because of the cat's claw. Anyway, I like the idea of being able to control the exact amount I want through tinctures. Best to all

cokie said...
The detoxing is what I need to learn now-Pete Za, what kinds of detoxing do you do?

I'm not PeteZa (and she's already answered), but here's what I do for detoxing to give you some perspective, as it's different for each of us:
I use a foot soak,
dry skin brushing,
making sure my bowels moved at least once a day (sorry if it's TMI!)
pushing myself to drink at least 64 ounces of lemon water each and every day,
liver/gall bladder flushes (all natural), as needed,
oil pulling with tea tree oil,
taking activated charcoal, as needed,
Alpha lipoic acid,
Quercetin,
​ turmeric,
Methyl B-12 and methyl folate,
Dandelion tincture,
red root tincture,
Yogi brand detox tea (original flavor)
Have recently added cytokine remodulators - Chinese Skullcap and Red clover extracts
and keeping the amount of stress in my life at a bare minimum.

​ I have used apple cider vinegar to help with detoxing as well - it's really good, but started making my stomach issues worse, so I stopped using it daily and only use it occasionally when I know I need a boost in my detoxing for just a day or two.​

You can find some really good detoxing suggestions in the "New to Lyme?" thread that sits at the top of the forum. And this is another really good resource for detoxing ideas for Lyme patients:
www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html


So the thing is to add each detoxing routine in slowly and as your body tolerates them. Start with things that are easy - adding lemon to your water (but be sure to brush your teeth afterwards, as the lemon is hard on the enamel!), dry skin brushing, lymph massages, and Epsom salt soaks (I use only the foot soaks because the full body soaks are too much for me).

Can you elaborate on ACV for detoxing? Do you drink it everyday or only when you herx? How much do you drink? Thanks!

I went from antibiotics to cowden's. Antibiotics did not bring improvement. They did further damage my gut, I'm sure.

Did cowden's help? I don't know, but I realized that all the herbals and pharm in the world wont help if you have issues such as leaky gut, Candida, metals, mold. That's the importance of testing to get a baseline.

Although testing can be in accurate at times, it can be helpful. If improvement is not made, testing should definitely be considered.

Purrrsiankitty, how do you test for leaky gut/candida/mold? I think I have problems with all three, but my LLMD just keeps throwing abx at me.

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hollsya said...
Purrrsiankitty, how do you test for leaky gut/candida/mold? I think I have problems with all three, but my LLMD just keeps throwing abx at me.

so did mine.

Leaky gut, parasite and Candida testing was done be Genova. LabCorp did mold. Also remember adrenal testing is important if fatigue is relentless, also Genova 😊

Thank you, Purrrsiankitty! I'm googling Genova now.