HealingWell
Search Close Search
☰

8 year old daughter complaining of itching same time every night

Support Forums
>
Lyme Disease
✚ New Topic ✚ Reply
❬ ❬ Previous Thread |Next Thread ❭ ❭
Posted 6/23/2017 12:34 AM (GMT 0)
So my 8 year old daughter for the last 2 weeks has been complaining of getting itchy on her legs and right arm. It happens around the same time 8'ish at night. It stopped for a few days and now its started up again. This is similar to what happened to my wife who ended up being diagnosed with Lyme via Igenex testing (we never got her tested for co-infections since it was a gamble) so we're getting very concerned as I don't know what else would cause these recurring itches during around the same time every day.

No tick bite, no rash anytime in recent memory. She did have a tick attached to her 4 years ago but nothing ever came of it at the time and she never had any symptoms that would let us think she was infected.

First question is there other maladies that could cause this?

Both my wife and I are seeing Dr. J in DC there's no way of getting her in there anytime soon (+ its far away). There are slim to no pediatric LLMD's around me. I would prefer a full Lyme and co-infections panel but know I can do a DNA Connexions test fairly quickly and don't need a doctor.

Thoughts on approach? Thanks.
Posted 6/23/2017 1:22 AM (GMT 0)
Yes do dna connex ..my nephew has same they blame candida but antifugals gf does not help ..his mom my sis has lyme bart ,4 years sounds like right time for incubation...

btw i just order some clindy cream to try on trouble spots ...maybe rife her for bart and see what happens
Posted 6/23/2017 1:32 AM (GMT 0)
I don't want to sound like I'm belittling the situation, but have you ruled out stuff like mites, bed bugs, allergies, all the usual stuff? Have you tried any topical creams?
Posted 6/23/2017 1:33 AM (GMT 0)
Sorry to hear this Rikky!

I don't know of anything that causes itchiness - just at night.

But, if that's her only symptom - then I don't think you need to rush to get her in to someone for treatment - can you schedule an appt. for her when you and your wife go back to Dr. J.? Or is that not coming up in a month or so?
And it's most likely not a recent infection via tick bite, right?
Posted 6/23/2017 1:34 AM (GMT 0)

Mustard Seed said...
I don't want to sound like I'm belittling the situation, but have you ruled out stuff like mites, bed bugs, allergies, all the usual stuff? Have you tried any topical creams?

With bed bugs, there would be marks...bite marks.

same as flea bites.

Not sure about mites...do their bites show up?
Posted 6/23/2017 1:38 AM (GMT 0)
I actually don't know too much about mites haha. I was just pointing out to make sure to check all normal, obvious sources of itching before jumping to any premature conclusions. New soaps, detergents, new foods, new toys, etc etc

EDIT: I'd just like to edit this and say I didn't realize the OP was Rikky, a long time poster and a knowledable person to be sure! I thought I was responding to someone a little newer to the Lyme scene, so my advice to make sure it's not other obvious stuff seems a little silly now! Haha. Like a kid telling the pilot how to fly :p Sorry bout that!

Post Edited (Mustard Seed) : 6/22/2017 7:53:37 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/23/2017 1:53 AM (GMT 0)
Is it when she's in bed? I itched when we got a new mattress and react to something in certain hotel rooms which causes me to itch too. Maybe consider chemical sensitivities. I know you've explored mold, which I believe can also cause itching.
Posted 6/23/2017 5:02 AM (GMT 0)
Histimine reaction to something she's eating or product she's using like a bath soap, face wash, shampoo etc
Posted 6/23/2017 1:47 PM (GMT 0)
I would say that after double checking the types of things that Mustard seed and Jrpsf brought up, and if that doesn't turn up any answers, then go for the possible infections from a tick. That may correspond to when you and your wife go in for your appt???

The itching with no rash could be from nerve endings going bonkers. I used to get incredible itching every afternoon - but there were never any rashes or marks on my skin (other than the ones I left on my skin from scratching!).
Posted 6/23/2017 1:57 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for your replies everyone. We use all natural everything so no reaction to chemicals or other crap. She's never been tested for allergies so that's something at least to get her tested for.

This happens around the same time most days and isn't tied to any particular activity.

We've been checking her every day for a while for tick bites so no way this would be from a recent bite/infection.

I was toying with giving her Doxy for a few days but I don't really feel like experimenting on my 8 year daughter to be honest. I also don't know if this minor symptom is enough to go full LLMD which will result in all sorts of logistical and monetary challenges.

I'm thinking of doing the DNA Connexions test myself which is $500. Believe me I don't want to spend the money superfluously because even if I do the test it could come back negative and she can still be infected.

Waiting can make things worse and more embedded if she has issues but this sure doesn't sound like a recent infection so maybe not worth rushing into anything.

Still unsure what to do.
Posted 6/23/2017 2:07 PM (GMT 0)
What about trialing her on some herbs? Just thought I'd ask. It's a tough position to be in for sure.
Posted 6/23/2017 2:30 PM (GMT 0)
It's a tough situation to be sure.
Personally, I'm not sure I'd be treating or diagnosing on skin itching alone, especially for young children.

Not only do you risk bad reactions and infection reactivation with treatment, if she doesn't have Lyme, you've now implanted the idea that she does in her head, and are risking any psychosomatic consequences.

I would probably wait a bit, maybe see a dermatologist to further rule stuff out. There are probably hundreds of things that cause skin itching.

If symptoms progress, then I'd take the next step.
Posted 6/23/2017 2:45 PM (GMT 0)
Just a thought, but I have itching at night sometimes and I believe it's nerve inflammation. It's usually on the back of my neck. Something to consider.
Posted 6/23/2017 2:59 PM (GMT 0)
Do you have a bed protector case? It might be mites. I don't think they leave bite marks that are noticeable.
Posted 6/23/2017 4:12 PM (GMT 0)
I have the same thing. It comes in waves. Like I'll get it every day for a week, then it will go away for weeks. It started before I began treatment, and continues after. The weird thing is that it only happens after dinner, not any other time. My diet is so limited, that I'm not eating anything different. Really weird is that I pretty much always eat leftovers for lunch. So I can eat dinner and itch like crazy afterwards. The next day, I will literally eat the same exact thing for lunch and be fine. So like your daughter, it's just in the evening. Because I can eat the same thing and it doesn't happen, I think it has more to do with tie of day than food. I just happen to eat dinner at about the same time.

My doctor can't figure it out, and in the grand scheme of things, it's not that bothersome. It usually goes away in about 20 minutes. An Epsom salt bath helps too. It does seem to be happening less and less since I started treatment. I have tested for co-infections, yeast, and parasites more than once, with more than one lab, and everything has been negative. I still only test positive for Borrelia (2 strains). I wish I could tell you what it was, but I have just chalked it up to Lyme.

I would probably get her tested.

Edited to add that I share a bed with my husband, so if it were some kind of mites, he would react too.
Posted 6/23/2017 6:29 PM (GMT 0)
Mites do not always effect both people. They can take hold if you have a compromised immune system. Also, they are more active when it's dark. So at night and often people will itch in movie theaters.

I will also itch if I eat sesame seeds.
✚ New Topic ✚ Reply