Are neurological symptoms the last to go for Bartonella?

Symptoms heal in a different order for each person, but what you are describing sounds like a Neuro symptom.

Have you had any increase in stress, or a change in protocol lately? That may also explain the increase in symptoms.

afiya4health said...
1) Are sharp muscle pain and muscle twitching neurological symptoms?

2) If so, are they usually the last to go when treating bartonella?

I suddenly have an uptick of muscle twitching and sharp muscle pain and painful "static-y" feeling just on my skin's surface. Also have had a burning sensation on my skin. This is my 10th month of bartonella treatment and i had a good month and a half before this.

The staticy feeling on the skin as well as burning sensation - are nerve issues...whether it's the PNS or the CNS - I don't know.
The twitching can be nerves as well.


So you haven't changed anything in your treatment recently?

I also am wondering (like caramba) if another infection is coming to the forefront - like Babesia. Even though those aren't 'classic' babesia symptoms...it still could be what's intensifying your Bart symptoms.

Some LLMD's treat all the three B's now. It's sometimes required to get remission.

I know how you feel - I have 'lost' many symptoms - but still have a few bad ones - my nerve pain is especially hard to deal with...and the internal shivering.
The nerves can take a long time to heal.

I added azithromycin to my tinidazole 2 times a day, but this was 4 weeks ago. I just ended my period yesterday and this cycle was ROGUH. Very heavy and had an increase in both period pains and bartonella symptoms (I also had a rise in caddie because of not following diet perfectly). My past few periods were never as bad as the one that i just had in respect to increase in Bartonella symptoms.

My doctor has treated me for Lyme, Babs and mycoplasma and believes i only have bartonella left which i've been treating for 10 months. I also believe that its just Bartonella causing these problems (My DR. says its PNS not CNS symptoms).

A few days ago I did like a detox day - green smoothie, epsom salt bath and added for the first time a detox tea -"Dandy Liver Detox" tea which also contains some milk thistle in it.

"Statick-y feeling," as afiya4 mentions, is what I feel sometimes on ear around my skin. Mostly at night. Sometimes more like a burn, as you also mentioned. Mine has grown since treating, and headaches have come back in middle of night full force.

I don't know if it is Bartonella or neuro-Lyme, as it has gotten worse since starting back Bicillin with herbs I'm already taking. I've learned a lot never does make sense or have a real pattern. Even headaches are unpredictable.

At the same time, muscle twitches have all but stopped with herb treatment. Makes no sense with all the different things happening or not happening.

I understand what you guys are saying but it is not another co-infection, it IS BARTONELLA and the symptoms match. I am not questioning whether it is Bartonella, I'm telling you it is.

So moving on from that, the question I'm asking and seeking an answer to is if my rise in neuro- PNS symptoms and the timing seem indicative of that they're the last symptoms to go in bartonella treatment? Has anyone experienced this?

I too have horrible nerve pain, which has gotten much better after almost 2 years of treatment. However, the minute I get a bacterial or viral infection it flares right back up. If I walk too far in inadequate shoes they will fire up also. I also get burning feet and really bad anxiety. Those are slowly getting better.

I have read that Baronella is the last to go as well. I'm seeing a new LLMD and I go the end of the month to find our her treatment plan so I'm excited to see what she has planned.

I have also read that nerve damage takes a very long time to heal. I find that taking an epsom salt bath really helps with the nerve pain.

afiya4health said...
Girlie, what are you treating with currently for Bartonella?

I'm treating Babesia now...because I'm wondering if it's holding me back.

I treated Bartonella with Rifampin 300 mg twice daily plus minocycline (and then switched to biaxin...and then back to minocycline - several months each) for a full year. Then I tested and was pcr positive for bartonella in September 2016.
(I had a break at some point prior to September...where I was messing around for a few months...sometimes not taking anything)
In December my LLND (after hearing I was bart positive after a year of treatment) - switched my Rifampin from 300 twice daily to 600 once daily. I herxed with that.

In March (2017) , I decided to treat Babesia - as some of my symptoms could indeed be Babs: tinnitus, POTS, pressure in my head behind my eyes, sweating - night and day, shivering (maybe chills? - I do usually feel cold when no one else is) So, I can't really say I'm asymptomatic.
I am still treating Babesia...and have herxed with treatment. I also thought I might have it because I had used Artemisinin when treating bart and herxed on it - woke up in the middle of the night with anxiety and shivering.

So 3 1/2 months on Babesia treatment - and I'm feeling some symptoms come back - twitching and my foot pain is worse than ever.

I can't figure this out...but I don't want to go another year thinking it's bart...and it turns out to be Babesia.

I will have to treat bart again...