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Posted 7/4/2017 10:48 AM (GMT 0)
hi again sorry i ask so much somebody else feels most sick in the morning like fever flu like symptoms but low body temp only in the morning is this a normal lyme symptom and then feeling better evening and maybe 1 time each month i have maybe a few hours late afternoon where i feel allmost like old me but only for a couple of hours?still no treatment but soon
Posted 7/4/2017 12:14 PM (GMT 0)
Hello ,

I feel sick in the morning with palpitations and anxiety or irritability and less strength.I try to survive, take my high cortisol therapy, get through it, maybe nap and then start acting, working better.The last 2 hours before going to sleep I feel very well, this is why I do not want to go to sleep, but I have to, to mentain a schedule.

Very rarely I feel normal, which shows everything we feel is just inflammation, herx, etc., we are not damaged for good.We just have to get to that state.

My opinion it all depends on cortisol cyrcardian rhythm, especially since I did my 4 point cortisol test.It was a thing learned from people on this forum.Traveler knows a lot about it.

Hope you start treatment soon, do not overdo it!
Posted 7/4/2017 12:40 PM (GMT 0)
hi finisului do you get some cortisol pills?
overdo it?you mean start with low dose abx?
Posted 7/4/2017 2:16 PM (GMT 0)
I too wake up feeling really icky - but only when I'm dealing with these infections. Everyone in my house actually leaves me alone the first hour I wake up because I'm not in a good mood! I have to have time to 'adjust' to being sick again in a way. It does get better with treatments though.

I have noticed that since my issue with my adrenals that it's worse, so it would be good to have your doctor do the 4 point saliva test that Finisului mentioned to check your cortisol output throughout the day.
Posted 7/4/2017 2:35 PM (GMT 0)
Hi aLunke, I have huge cortisol at 12 o clock, 3 times higher than it should be(I have felt like having a heart attack the last months at noon) and I take ashwaganda +valerian pills. Also at night, but I am much more normal at night. Yes, go slow with going to full dose of each Abx.
Posted 7/4/2017 2:44 PM (GMT 0)
ty all for help i ask alot i think i am just affraid i never got normal again and i know i have proofs that i got lyme but i still thinking what if its not lyme and they dont know what it is and i have to go a life like this it scare me so its nice to have some to talk with is there not a way to lower cortisol?and does ashwanga help you?
Posted 7/4/2017 2:52 PM (GMT 0)
Hang in there, Alunke! I understand how scary this is!

Do you have an appt with a LLMD that you are just waiting for at this point?

Many 'regular' doctors just have no idea what to do with us, so they tell us they can't help - this does not mean you will have to live this way the rest of your life though, as there are always things you can do to help yourself.

I use ashwagandha and won't go without it for my adrenal issues. It's an adaptogen, so whether your cortisol is high or low, it will help balance it out. For me, I had to start out with glandulars because I had sunk down into Addison's, and now have to use a homeopathic remedy along with the ashwagandha, but it is working well for me.

But, you don't want to add in anything that could make your adrenals over or under work at this point, which is why it's best to do the saliva test first to be sure you need it. Adrenals are touchy little buggers.
Posted 7/4/2017 3:15 PM (GMT 0)
i have ashwagandha in home i only tryed it maybe 6-8 times last time i took one i felt strange in my head its like i am sensitivity to alot after i got sick is it best to take it in the morning or can i take it when i feel the best?i got an treatment plan from armin labs and mailed it to my private doctor who whant to give it a try no help else in denmark and to sick to travel to germany i think i gonna get that test when i get some more money i found a site they send me glas bottels.
i have this to https://dk.iherb.com/pr/Thorne-Research-Adrenal-Cortex-60-Veggie-Caps/18706 is this allso a adaptogen?

Post Edited (alunke82) : 7/4/2017 9:19:22 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/4/2017 3:44 PM (GMT 0)
Forgive me, Alunke, but I'm getting a little lost - we had a lot of stress over the weekend and my brain fog is still hanging on.

So, did you have an adrenal test? What kind and what were the results?

And no, what you linked to is not an adaptogen, it's adrenal cortex. It's a glandular that is made from Bovine adrenal glands. I had to take this for a while myself when I was in the beginning of Addison's and my adrenals were trying to shut down.

Did a doctor tell you to take the adrenal cortex? If not, don't use it, as it could make your situation worse if you aren't sure what exactly is going on. Here is a good article on it if you don't already understand this - and for those that would like to do some reading on it: /www.drlam.com/blog/glandulars-and-herbs-for-adrenal-fatigue-part-1/7544/

If you do need it, you need to take it at the same time daily, every day, to properly support the adrenals.

We do need to be careful to not add hormones that we don't need, and to take them when we do need them.
Posted 7/4/2017 3:54 PM (GMT 0)
you are forgiven travelersmileno i gonna take the test when i get some moneysmiledid the thorne cortex help you traveler?
Posted 7/4/2017 4:09 PM (GMT 0)
I used a different brand, but I do believe that I would not have healed as much as I have had I not used the adrenal cortex as part of my initial treatment 4 years ago (ugh! I can't believe I've been treating them that long!). But, after a few months on them, I plateaued and had to switch to ashwagandha and homeopathic treatments to continue my adrenal healing.
Posted 7/4/2017 6:27 PM (GMT 0)
Is the cortisol issue from lyme I to feel worse in morning but better by bedtime,i notice im foggy and more anxious in morning even when I herx
Posted 7/4/2017 8:07 PM (GMT 0)
Cortisol levels can very much be affected by these infections, even without damaging the organs, but it's always best to get tested than to just try treating. If looking for the issues, I would suggest getting thoroughly tested for thyroid issues as well as the other hormones as well though.
Posted 7/5/2017 6:53 AM (GMT 0)
From day one I have felt the worst in the morning. Really I feel awful until after the noon hour. I've also found I have to be awake for at least two hours before I can feel slightly well enough to do anything above "nothing". Even on my "good" days. Night time I can almost feel like the old me ... right now it's 3:00a.m. and I feel the best I've felt in months!!! But as my treatment has progressed so has my state upon waking. Seven months ago I awoke feeling like roadkill. Now I just wake up feeling drained and like my body has been beaten and bruised. An improvement nevertheless! 😂
Posted 7/5/2017 7:21 AM (GMT 0)
ty all i know i ask alot i just hope i have a change to get better someday 19 months now and have tryed some really scared things so far but i think i whant to test cortisol when i get some money i guess its normal to feel better late evening with lyme i just whant to be sure my symptoms can be lyme before i go in treatment i am affraid its not lyme and i kill good stuff in my body instead i maybe allready need
i tryed epsom foot bath the last 2 evenings before sleep i got more sick yesterday and runny nose this morning and tired is that normal?
i allso have erfa thyroid in my house got it from a doctor but never took it only 1/4 of an pill i got slight dizzy but only for 10-20 min so again sensitivity but i read you can get some side effect to begin with is it worth a try and see if i get better?

Post Edited (alunke82) : 7/5/2017 2:34:35 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/5/2017 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
"i tryed epsom foot bath the last 2 evenings before sleep i got more sick yesterday and runny nose this morning and tired is that normal?"

For some of us, yes. This happens when we move more toxins than our body is capable of processing out effectively. Many toxins are stored in our tissues, and by detoxing, we move them to the bloodstream where we can process them out of our bodies through the lymph system, then on to the liver and kidneys as so on. We have to be sure to add in more detoxing routines slowly and carefully, or we will end up herxing just like we had never been detoxing. This article helps to explain that some: www.tiredoflyme.com/4-reasons-why-you-still-feel-bad-despite-detoxing.html

As for the thyroid meds - you were tested and found that you were in need of the meds? If so, you would need to take them for several weeks to know if it was the right dosage. It takes a while for the meds to help balance out the hormones.
Posted 7/5/2017 5:07 PM (GMT 0)
hi traveler all test are normal never had a scan but all blood test are normal we thought to beging with it was thyroid issue becouse my dad have thyroid disorder and his mom and granmom but all test normal i just thought maybe it could help feeling better if i had issue with adrenal but i dont know yet can detox help me feel better if i do it everyday for some time?and is it ok to take a footbath every evening to start with i have done it 2 days now and thinking i might do one again tonight
Posted 7/5/2017 5:35 PM (GMT 0)
So you had a blood test for your thyroid and it came back as normal? Do you remember if they tested just the TSH or if they tested for T3, T4 and others? The more information you can provide on this, the better we may be able to help.

With thyroid issues in the rest of your family like that, it wouldn't be surprising if you did have thyroid issues - but it doesn't mean you do either. That's why it's best to be tested first.

Yes, you can do a foot bath every night if you wish. Try not keeping your feet in the water so long, lowering the temp of the water and a few other things to help you find where it won't make you feel worse after doing it. You can also consider using a binder, like activated charcoal, after doing your foot bath to help mop up those toxins - just watch out for constipation! That will increase issues, because the toxins will then release back into the body through the intestinal walls.
Posted 7/5/2017 6:21 PM (GMT 0)
ty traveler i had all blood test and all normal i just took one foot bath hot water but not to hot i get same feeling again like you are on the verge to get flu and alittle sore throat not bad at all but i can feel it

Post Edited (alunke82) : 7/5/2017 6:54:55 PM (GMT-6)

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