Sexually transmitted? ???!!

gfields said...
If you know you have lyme disease, is it unethical to get a new girlfriend or boyfriend? Isn't that the same thing as having sex with someone if you have AIDs or HIV?

I've read that not only is it transmittable by sex, but it can be transmitted through breathing in dehydrated spirochetes. So a bodily fluid that is dried and then inhaled can transmit the disease. There apparently government studies on this, and they found that this is possible.

Please post links if you can! Very interesting...

-p

Ok so because of this topic I had to create an account. I am a 26 year old male. 7/4/15 I developed a myriad of symptoms and checked into a hospital. Plenty of tests run, "as healthy as can be." You all know the story. All they wanted to prescribe was benzo's for anxiety. I was the happiest person prior to this disease. Anyways I continued on with my life, I have self-treated with so many herbs and supplements and I can say I have made a massive difference without even knowing what I was fighting (perceived parasites) but this post is not about my recovery. It is about SEXUAL TRANSMISSION.

Believing that whatever symptoms I had were not contagious (never any signs of sexual disease EVER), I have slept with a few girls over the past 6-8 months. With three of those girls I did not use protection. It is so unfortunate to say that ALL three of them developed my exact symptoms, I found out today. My current girlfriend developed symptoms last week leading me to ask these other girls. I went to my doctor demanded a test and tested positivefor Lyme, babs and Bart. I have never been bitten by a tick. I believe I contracted it sexually, as well. It may not be scientifically recognized but I swear to you Lyme is sexually transmitted. Yes, we should treat it as though it is herpes or HIV because you can drastically alter another persons life for a couple hours of lust.

Moodylyme - is there a way I can contact you directly? My girlfriend has a lot of similar symptoms to me and I'm not sure how to deal with it.

MR DUDE you can click the email button under my name to send me a direct message.

hollsya said...
So lyme can be transmitted sexually, but can it be transmitted through saliva? Like by kissing someone?

That is the question.

Personally, I don't think so. It could just be passed on via blood but not saliva. So, if there are sores in the mouth of the person with it...and the person they're kissing...then I'm thinking it's more probable it can happen.

But there are people who do believe it's passed on via saliva.

bluelyme said...
On saliva ..i think yes..peteza hubby may agree...other spirochetes exist in the mouth why not borrelia ...anecdotally some one caught it from a tear of a infected person ...so why not spit ..imo .a huge percent of people already have borrelia ,like if every one doesnt they will...

But does the spirochetes in the mouth always translate into passing on infection?

Could it not be the same as Syphillis (spirochetal) - where it's there in the mouth, but only passes on if there are open sores in the mouth (i.e. blood) ?

Girlie ...setup a kissing booth for every id doc in america and canada and i will personally pucker up and wet my whistle ...lol

you dont need a cold sore open to get herpes...

Piroutte-

Thank you for the kind introduction. I apologize for being so late to reply. I absolutely positively agree with you that the CDC and others are either ignorantly or purposefully allowing this problem to become greater year after year.

Excuse me expressing myself for a moment. During the two years before diagnoses I went to different doctors a number of times and ALWAYS left with the feeling deep down that something so much bigger than me was going on.. And it always felt sooo shady. Now I go to sleep at night feeling as if I know that is absolutely undeniably true.

To anyone who is currently dealing with Lyme or any chronic disease my heart goes out to you. I also challenge you to take it upon yourself to heal yourself. Unless you find a doctor who has compassion and brains, you're wasting your money imho. Good luck to all and my email is open to anyone who needs a shoulder. We're all family now bonded together by something that has altered each of our lives. Crazy stuff but it's a crazy world. Much love.

You're correct girlie. I should have been a tad more specific. Also, who's to say that your normal doctor won't refer you to someone who is Lyme literate. I guess from my experience I hold a bit of a grudge against doctors. I made so much more progress not even knowing what I was treating than they ever did in my case haha.

After reading Moodylyme's story, I am seriously concerned. This is a big blow to the future.

What happens if Lyme and coinfections are "healed"? It is difficult to totally eradicate these bugs. But if someone is in remission then is that safe?

I totally aim for completely eradicating these bugs. It is foolish to leave the enemy behind alive. It will come back in future, after 5 10 20 years, waiting for the right time, weak immune and some stress to trigger it. Is total eradication possible?

Lyme is mini AIDS.

newuser22 said...
After reading Moodylyme's story, I am seriously concerned. This is a big blow to the future.

What happens if Lyme and coinfections are "healed"? It is difficult to totally eradicate these bugs. But if someone is in remission then is that safe?

I totally aim for completely eradicating these bugs. It is foolish to leave the enemy behind alive. It will come back in future, after 5 10 20 years, waiting for the right time, weak immune and some stress to trigger it. Is total eradication possible?

Lyme is mini AIDS.

Many LLMD's call it 'remission' not cured...because it is thought that our immune system is dealing with them...but they're not totally gone.

i know several people (in my location) who have been in remission for years...and their lives have gone on without having to worry about a relapse. Three of them just moved on...and believe they are 'cured' so don't really pay attention to keeping their immune system strong. I hope they don't relapse. A fourth one is a teenager and caught it quite early on but undertreated with a week of abx. That was a year ago...so far everything is good. I am worried about that one.
Another one has been in remission for over a year now...and she is very conscious of staying healthy - fairly strict diet now, reducing stress in her life...etc.

I'm still working on getting this disease into remission.

Its kind of crazy this thread revived when it did. My wife has started tp get night sweats and headaches ! We went to her pcp wednesdsy to tell her what was going on. Told her we wanted a lymes test for my wife so she ordered it. Results should be back thursday or friday. I'll let you guys know what we find out. I hope she doesn't have to go through all of this. I still can't believe out of all the docs i saw not one of them mentioned the possibility of sexual transmission.

Girlie said...

newuser22 said...
After reading Moodylyme's story, I am seriously concerned. This is a big blow to the future.

What happens if Lyme and coinfections are "healed"? It is difficult to totally eradicate these bugs. But if someone is in remission then is that safe?

I totally aim for completely eradicating these bugs. It is foolish to leave the enemy behind alive. It will come back in future, after 5 10 20 years, waiting for the right time, weak immune and some stress to trigger it. Is total eradication possible?

Lyme is mini AIDS.

Many LLMD's call it 'remission' not cured...because it is thought that our immune system is dealing with them...but they're not totally gone.

i know several people (in my location) who have been in remission for years...and their lives have gone on without having to worry about a relapse. Three of them just moved on...and believe they are 'cured' so don't really pay attention to keeping their immune system strong. I hope they don't relapse. A fourth one is a teenager and caught it quite early on but undertreated with a week of abx. That was a year ago...so far everything is good. I am worried about that one.
Another one has been in remission for over a year now...and she is very conscious of staying healthy - fairly strict diet now, reducing stress in her life...etc.

I'm still working on getting this disease into remission.

What protocol did these three use? How long did it take?
Can these WB bot Igenex, DNA connexion etc tests can be used for eradication verification? ART/energetic testing can help a bit.

I just don't think it is smart to keep any of these infections alive in the body. These really are billion-year-old predators, who survive with manipulation and deception.

They have no legit reason to be in the body, not in any count, not 1, not 1 million. Good bacteria and harmless bugs don't manipulate and deceive; they help, modulate immune etc.
Leaving behind any bug means leaving back door open for major sickness when in future there is some stressor.
Leaving them behind means possibly spread them in the family, small chance of spreading to wife husband, kids.
They can cause cancer and other diseases, even in small number hiding in some corner they can mess with the DNA and cells and produce cancer.
These bugs adapt to treatment, abx, herbs, today they will keep their head down, and after 10 years they will rebel with greater force when the time is right for them.

It is a predatory game, can't leave the enemy alive, can't slack.

I am still at the beginning of my Lyme war since I discovered it last month, waiting for more tests results to come back. I need a clear idea of the threat landscape, and then carefully design strategy for each of their strengths and weaknesses.