Inflated stomach -part 2-

Hi,

I'm making a part 2 of my thread, because I have new questions ;)


I have seen a doctor, and he prescribed me this time an ANTIacid, lol. Before that I have tried to take ACID.
I have tried for 2 weeks, but it didn't work either. Maybe it's even worse, I don't know.

So, he want's that I do a gastroscopy.
What I'm thinking is that maybe I have H pylori.

Do somebody know if that can be chronic, like from childhood, with Lyme?

A crazy thing is that since a long time maybe 5/6 years I have pain in a spot in my stomach. And at some point I have took artemisinin for 1/2 weeks, I don't remember. And the pain went away for like 1 year before coming back! I never understood why, but I have seen in some studies, that artemisinin is strongly effective against H pylori!!
So maybe the artemisinin destroyed partially the H pylori that I had.

Maybe I will pay myself, without doctor prescription, a H pylori breath test. Because I don't know why, but he refused to prescribe me that.
And for my part, I don't want that somebody put a tube inside me, and I don't want to go in a hospital if I can avoid....

Inflated Stomach Part 1

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3858590

Post Edited By Moderator (Girlie) : 7/30/2017 1:04:46 AM (GMT-6)

Thank you Girlie.

I have added a link too.

Isn't there also a breath test now for h pylori?

Also, do you have documents about mycoplasma pneumoniae causing digestive issues?

Yes, there are official recommandations that tells to do a gastroscopy first.
I'm sure it's again business related. Maybe the guys that do the recommandations are gastroenterologists...

It's a nonsense because the breath test is more sensitive than the biopsy cultivaton of tissues done with the gastroscopy...

diaryoflymegirl.blogspot.com/2012/06/mycoplasma-often-overlooked-in-chronic.html

Summary

In chronic Lyme disease, it is often difficult to know which infections are actually responsible for the persistence of illness. However, in general terms, chronic intracellular infections that change the metabolism of cells and suppress mitochondrial and other functions will lead to patients remaining in a chronically ill state. Dr. Nicolson believes that these infections must be aggressively treated. "Similar to chronic Lyme disease, the current CDC or IDSA recommendations for short-term treatment of chronic infections are simply inadequate," he says.
Dr. Nicolson has found that there is a hierarchy of symptoms that resolve relatively quickly and those that resolve more slowly when treating Mycoplasma. Gut-associated phenomenon such as Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) often resolve quickly. Other systemic signs and symptoms can resolve in an intermediate period of time from many weeks to many months. Symptoms associated with the central and peripheral nervous systems such as neuropathy and pain often resolve much more slowly. Skin sensitivity and burning sensations may take much longer to resolve. Mycoplasma infections do invade nerves, and nerve-related symptoms are among the more difficult to resolve.

Girlie said...

I guess there are false negatives with the breath test...but I would assume a positive means you have it...so why not do it first - and then if necessary do the gastroscopy.... probably just a regular Dr. office visit to do the breath test.

No, I have called some doctors and they tell that the biopsy needs to be done first...
The reason is that in the official recommandations it is stated that the breath test should only be used for the confirmation of the elimination of the infection.
Even if it can detect H pylori with more accuracy than the biopsy...
And without prescription, you can't have the drugs used to do the test.


So finally I've done the serology. The problem is that some test are pretty accurate, and other are very bad. So I'm waiting to see.

i know there is suffering involved and im sorry.

but looking at all these threads about inflated stomach, pain and all sorts of diagnosis ... is sometimes amusing, from my own perspective, because i remember how many misdiagnosis i've had. First there was liver cancer (yeah, imagine that), then there was h pylori, two gastroscopies later and they ruled out h pylori, then there was IBS. When they say IBS it really means they have ho fricking clue.

I had excruciating pains and gastritis, was on antacids and PPIs for months.... nothing worked.
After my lyme diagnosis i was given one month of levofloxacin and rifampin for Bartonella. And the pain went away, i was left with just severe bloating. This went away slowly by changing diet and eating coconut oil/butter, and ofc lyme treatment ...

now looking back at how retarded the GI doctors are about this disease (no offense intended) i can only laugh.

have a look at this presentation from the pinned time
/youtu.be/8Rma1co2LCQ?t=174
he talks about many interesting things but also mentions that bartonella can cause "h-pylori negative gastritis".

hi everybody,

I come to give some news.

After my negative test for h pylori, I've bought a naso-gastric probe (a tube that goes into the stomach by the nose).
It's a little bit hardcore to do it by himself, but I succeded to do it. The goal was to take stomach acid, and to look at it with the microscope to see if I find H pylori.
I didn't find any.
But I don't know if it is possible to see it by microscope.
Anyway, I don't think that I have H pylori finally. When I put the tube I have felt that the point where I have pain is the entrance of the stomach, not inside the stomach. I think I have too much pressure, and the "valve" leaks a bit.

What is very weird is that I'm now sure that it's not Lyme that gives me much of my symptoms.
It's another thing. And what I'm sur is that it's in the digestive system. It may be a very bad thing because it gives me very bad reactions.
It's not a fungus I think (negative tests, and the antifungal does me nothing)
I don't think worms either because I had tests too, and no result. Also I've tested myself with my microscope.

So, does somebody know if there is a list of known coinfections that are intestinal?
Like bacteria, protozoa, etc?
Or if something is frequent with Lyme.

Also I've tested artemisinin, and it seems to be doing something on this thing. My intestines "reacts".
And I've retested the cranberry, and it seems ultra powerful on this thing! I'm stunned, it's not supposed to be a very powerfull plant, and I don't understand what is happening.
The essential oils that I bough also for H pylori in fact does nothing on it (manuka and carrott seed oil)

Also since I'm taking artemisine or cranberry, I'm stressed. I'm close to panick attacks. And my tolerance to exercise is very lowered. If I walk too much, I feel the urge to go to toilets and I feel very bad. Also I don't know why it is possible, but this thing seems to be linked to breath problems. All that is crazy...

Post Edited (Healrom) : 9/4/2017 1:20:52 AM (GMT-6)

Maybe I should have made my message shorter.
No it's not candida for me.
A long time ago I tested a restriction diet for 2 month I guess, but I didn't have results.

There are other yeasts like, but diferent from candida. Someone here was posting a lot about it this spring. I dont remember the name of it or the poster.

Try yersinia or similar

Thank's for your answers.

Yes i had a stool test. They tested for candida and fungi. And also for salmonella, shigella, campylobacter, yersinia, staph aureaus. All was negative.
They didn't tested for C difficile.

A strange thing, is that there are a few days, my digestion improved dramatically. Also for one night, I was feeling my belly, and all the area, like if the nerves had been "reconnected".
It corresponds at the time when I started goldenseal. But now it doesn't work anymore.
Also I lifted a heavy thing, and i overwhelmed my capacity. Then my back was really painfull and I tried some exercises to decompress the spine. So i thought that it could be that. But it doesn't work anymore neither!
I know it's almost sci-fi what i'm telling, it's driving me nuts.