Minocycline + Plaquenil + Tinidazole Good article on this combo for treatment of MS

This minocycline + plaquenil + tinidazole has worked so effectively well for me I think more people should be aware of it!

Here is an article that supports it, also it even cures Lyme related MS...

http://www.lymepa.org/Chronic_Lyme_borreliosis_at_the_root_of_Multiple_Sclerosis_and_a_possible_cure_with_antibiotics.pdf

I wanted to jump in to warn about this strong abx combination.

Please, never take these kind of combinations without the advice AND guidance of a Lyme literate doctor, a doctor who knows what he is doing. Tinidazole can be too much if one's bacterial load is too high.
I wasn't allowed to go on it, cause it would cause too much die-off. I was on Plaquenil/Minocycline/Azythromycin and I felt like dying.

Hi Katebirch. I don't think the tinidazole is that harsh of a drug, I was able to tolerate it. In fact I tolerated the tinidazole better than I was able to tolerate the rifampin. The rifampin gave me some major fatigue, literally would knock me out after taking it, and it made my liver ache when I first started it. Also the rifampin made my pees and poos orange color and I ended up with some yeast in my stool from it.

I think the rifampin is highly effective for bartonella, but the Septra DS + Minocycline also worked for my Bartonella as well, and Septra DS is more tolerable. The only issue with Septra DS is that some people maybe allergic to sulfa drugs... I have no allergies.

You mentioned that perhaps catching it from a person rather than catching it from a tick has made it easier to recover from? To that I answer yes and no. My infection disseminated throughout my body very quickly and was already spread into even my brain in 4 days. Usually with a tick bite it takes longer to disseminate. Also I may have been exposed to a higher load of bacteria than a tick bite. My infection got into my lungs, lips, mouth, and spread very quickly. Also I have no protozoal infection. I believe organisms like babesia are not likely to be spread from person to person unless it is spread directly through blood contact.

From everything I am reading and some people I talked to. These protozoal infections literally make the others like 10 times worse.

Post Edited (LymePickle) : 5/2/2014 12:14:48 PM (GMT-6)

We walk a very fine line on this (& other) Lyme forums trying to help each other, but we must be very careful to not cross over into giving medical advice. I have times when I wonder if I've crossed that line in my efforts to help, but we must always be watchful.

These infections and treating them are incredibly individual - what works for one person may not help another and may make them even worse. I was one of those that it made much, much worse! Minocycline almost killed me.

There are almost always so many other things that are going on in the body that makes us each a very unique case. What's harsh or hard on the system for one person may be easy for another to handle. Which is why we support those that choose to use abx, abx and holistic means, or just holistic means to treat their infections - we are all different.

Some of the things that could be very different in each of us are:

*Dental issues.

*Different stages of thyroid dysfunction - some having over active and some having under active issues.

*Different stages of adrenal dysfunctions.

*Intestinal issues such as malabsorption issues, Celiac disease, Crohn's Disease, SIBO, or even as I have, severe intestinal cramping that mimics obstructive bowel issues.

*Detoxing issues - many have genetic mutations that prevent them from detoxing, and must be very careful how aggressive they treat anything due to a Cytokine cascade from serious herxing that could occur and cause serious injury.

*Different combination of infections, viruses, and co-conditions. Everything from Epstein Barr and cytomegalovirus to possibly undetected heart issues and Endocrine issues.

And let's not forget that there are interactions with other things that we may take that need to be taken into account as well.

My point is that each of us will require something different even though many on abx will use the same abx at some point. It may only be in different strengths and in different combinations than others, but there are specific reasons (or should be) that your doctor has chosen when and how much of any abx to prescribe to you.

And let's not get caught in the trap of comparing how ill we are, how long we have been ill, how many infections we may have, or any thing else about these infections and conditions. We have all likely never been this ill before and that should be enough. We are here to offer suggestions for things that we have found have helped us, to listen to others when they have a bad day, are scared or fearful about something, to help teach those that don't know anything about these infections with things that can be proven. We are not like the IDSA and offer only 'expert opinion' - unless someone is asking for our opinion on something.

These forums are supposed to bring a sense of community, and competition will ruin that. Many of us work very hard to try to make sure that that sense of community stays here.

It is my opinion that no one should be using abx without a doctor and they should be working with their Lyme Literate doctor, or finding one that they can work with.

I, for one, would NOT be able to handle that combo. I have methylation issues= My body doesnt detox well so I have to start w/1 med at 1/2 the dose for a few months, THEN add in a 2nd abx at 1/2 the dose.

Im allergic to sulpha drugs and have antibiotic resistant staph in my sinuses; which means i have even fewer options!!!

Im glad to hear Your combo is working for YOU!!!

lightfoot500 said...
Have any of you who have done the abx cocktails incorporated any anti fungals during the protocol like nystatin or diflucan to keep down the candida ? i guess there is also non-perscript anti fungal over the counter too. what about that ? thanks

Hey Light, I've been taking Nystatin since I began treatment. No problems. I also use a supplement to back it up called Candicidal by Xymogen, but I'm full blown Candida not just trying to avoid it.

Hope this helps

VCL

My understanding is that Diflucan is much harder on the liver. I reserve it for the rare yeast infection during Tinda pulses.

So Rifampin alone? Usually another antibiotic will be paired with it.

I wonder why your LLMD doesn't do this - certainly worth asking .