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Posted 5/13/2017 10:23 PM (GMT 0)
This is good. It is interesting hearing of someone w possibly just bartonella/ blo. It really makes me feel like that might be in my cards.

And the protocol I must research. Sounds like some interesting options.
Thanks for sharing ! Good luck moving forward!
Posted 5/13/2017 10:42 PM (GMT 0)
REA,

Congrats on being such a lyme warrior and sharing your story.

I love hearing when anyone heals and we all want to know 'how'. You sound young and strong so I'm happy you could get to high doses and conquer the bugs.

Were you ever tested for Lyme or did you only have to heal cat scratch fever?

Happy you are healed/healing.
Posted 5/15/2017 12:18 AM (GMT 0)

LymePickle said...
Redeyedarab...

Thanks so much for sharing your protocol!

Actually I have the biopure 10 in 1, lol I just went straight to 30 drops!

I woke up with my lungs and throat a total mess. I had a red rash throughout my body too.

Everyone who uses biopure 10 in 1 says it is like the equivalent of a nuclear bomb for everything from parasites to bacteria to candida to Protozoa.

I wanna wipe this thing out for good as I have been sick for 3.5 years. As far as I know I got Epstein Barr virus, bartonella, and mycoplasma.

But so good to know finally something to take that I can just dose once per day!!! I think it was working when I was taking it before too. Your post got me taking it again, this time I'm staying on it.

I'm curious. Can you share a list of what symptoms you had? Just curious the similarities in your illness to mine.

Biopure 10 in 1 is the way to go if you want to eliminate all types of pathogens. I also exercise intensely 5 day per week (cardio and weightlifting) and I definitely think there's a correlation between herx symptoms and intense exercise due to blood being pumped further into the extracellular matrix. Regarding my symptoms, I had all the neuro symptoms you can think of including cognitive, memory, emotion symptoms (I remember becoming manic for 3 days and I thoroughly enjoyed it lol). Headaches, can be severe, ice pick, in and around eyes. Occasionally, Painful chest wall, mid to upper sternum. My neck lymph nodes would swell slightly (red root helped a lot for this). Mild sore throat, worse with stress, upon waking, Feels like “just about to get sore throat”.
Gastritis. Arthritis especially the shins. Muscle twitches. I would get more acne if I increased the drops of biopure
Chills. Red dots that appear out of nowhere on my skin especially the arms and would disappear shortly.
Posted 5/15/2017 12:23 AM (GMT 0)
Lightlife and Huddie... Thank you for your kind words, really appreciate it. I was never tested for lyme because I've never been bitten by tick, but then again a lot of infected people don't recollect a tick bite. I'm pretty sure this cat infected me because the symptoms appeared right after.
Posted 5/15/2017 12:49 AM (GMT 0)

RedEyedArab said...
...I diagnosed myself with bartonella or possibly BLO. Now this is foolish for anyone to do based on google research, so I advise you not to follow this path at all before meeting with an LLMD or a doctor.

Now for my supplement stack that got rid of most of my symptoms (including muscle twitches all over my body which was imo the most annoying symptom):

1-Houttuynia (powerful!!! I took Traveler's word for it and it definitely produced a strong herx)
2-Lithium orotate (I like the pure encapsulations brand because it has NAC, which is excellent for detoxing)
3-Red root (for lymphatic system and general digestive health)
4-Curcumin (longvida brand good for optimized absorption)
5-Biopure 10 in 1 ozonated oil (Most powerful herbal tincture I tried yet! Look into it and believe me it will eliminate any infection within 8 months if you take it consistently. Again Its really powerful so start slow because it can cause mayhem if you go fast. I'm at about 20 drops a day and the effects are quite strong even if I feel normal that day.
6-Results RNA ACS 200 Extra Strength Nasal Spray (silver which penetrates tissue easily and kill the infections quickly. Plus it enhances the effects of abx.
7- 4life transfer factor plus (for increasing natural killer cell activity)
8-Hemp CBD oil

Thanks for sharing and welcome. Is it foolish to self diagnose when doctors don't test for this and if and when they finally do, they can only detect 2 of 40+ species of Bartonella and growing?

I get the disclaimer statement though, we all do it but once in a while we slip up and say what we really think about doctors and testing.

You had the crazy eye problems. An opthamologist wouldn't likely figure it out without much persistence and might literally get tired of seeing you. Your linear rash marks sound like confirmation to me.

Thank God for the internet and cheap Indian meds.
Posted 5/15/2017 9:19 PM (GMT 0)

ChickenArise said...

RedEyedArab said...
...I diagnosed myself with bartonella or possibly BLO. Now this is foolish for anyone to do based on google research, so I advise you not to follow this path at all before meeting with an LLMD or a doctor.

Now for my supplement stack that got rid of most of my symptoms (including muscle twitches all over my body which was imo the most annoying symptom):

1-Houttuynia (powerful!!! I took Traveler's word for it and it definitely produced a strong herx)
2-Lithium orotate (I like the pure encapsulations brand because it has NAC, which is excellent for detoxing)
3-Red root (for lymphatic system and general digestive health)
4-Curcumin (longvida brand good for optimized absorption)
5-Biopure 10 in 1 ozonated oil (Most powerful herbal tincture I tried yet! Look into it and believe me it will eliminate any infection within 8 months if you take it consistently. Again Its really powerful so start slow because it can cause mayhem if you go fast. I'm at about 20 drops a day and the effects are quite strong even if I feel normal that day.
6-Results RNA ACS 200 Extra Strength Nasal Spray (silver which penetrates tissue easily and kill the infections quickly. Plus it enhances the effects of abx.
7- 4life transfer factor plus (for increasing natural killer cell activity)
8-Hemp CBD oil

Thanks for sharing and welcome. Is it foolish to self diagnose when doctors don't test for this and if and when they finally do, they can only detect 2 of 40+ species of Bartonella and growing?

I get the disclaimer statement though, we all do it but once in a while we slip up and say what we really think about doctors and testing.

You had the crazy eye problems. An opthamologist wouldn't likely figure it out without much persistence and might literally get tired of seeing you. Your linear rash marks sound like confirmation to me.

Thank God for the internet and cheap Indian meds.

I totally agree with what you just said. I decided to skip getting myself tested because the vast majority of people report getting constant false negatives for bart and they would eventually be clinically diagnosed, which is the same as my case except I'm self-diagnosing. Yeah once I saw the infamous rash I knew it was cat scratch disease. I also suspect being infected with toxoplasmosis, since I had die off reactions that involve derealization and personality changes causing me to behave in strange ways (very implusive). There's actual research that shows a link between toxoplasmosis and schizophrenia, so I do think its possible I have it because it lives in the gut of cats and is excreted in their feces.
Posted 8/5/2017 6:07 PM (GMT 0)
LymePickle, sent you an email to your addy listed. andrewcobble... hope it gets there.

few questions for you. one generally was about the plaquinol and whether it would help with the wiegman protocol of mino and tinido ? i read an article you referenced on another thread. not specificly to me or anyone else. just whether in general for lyme and pathogens whether you heard the plaquinol made a difference in killing off bad bugs and borrelia.

Post Edited (lightfoot500) : 8/5/2017 12:10:24 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/5/2017 7:11 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Lightfoot500,

Im not sure in Lymepickle will see this since it is an old post.
So it is good that you tried to email.

Hopefully they will get it if,not you could start a new post asking the same questions and maybe another member might be able to offer some help.

Take care, Jo
Posted 8/6/2017 10:04 AM (GMT 0)
Nice deducting RedEyedArab. Very well thought out.
Posted 8/6/2017 11:50 AM (GMT 0)
Hey guys wanted to update this thread about my current protocol. I stopped all of the supplements I was using. All my symptoms are gone now since treating with high dose MSM (around 15-20g) using doctor's best brand (this a very high dose so be careful of the detox effect). Also I've been doing coffee enemas twice a week (never thought I'd be doing them) and I have to say they made the greatest difference the last 4 weeks. If you are easily grossed out don't read any further, but after the first time doing a coffee enema I passed what looked like biofilm (4 inches of slimy and sticky mucus). Every time I passed such a thing I would feel extremely better and my energy levels become insane. I know for sure this isn't candida and I definitely suspect that PR (produces lots of biofilm) is what was holding me back from full recovery. I'm also using liposomal colostrum to heal my leaky gut and I've had impressive results so far. Even in the gym, my stamina is surprisingly better.
Posted 8/6/2017 8:34 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you Georgia Hunter... Hopefully by the time I become absolutely asymptomatic while maintaining maybe 25 grams of MSM, I'll cut back on any supplements and rely solely on a good diet for two months and see if this stuff truly worked. A doctor that's a relative of mine swears by this stuff for all sorts of health problems especially leaky gut and said I could handle it even at extremely high doses given my good health condition. The detox effect is really strong at first and I'm still getting herx symptoms on 18 grams such as anxiety, occasional muscle twitches and headaches that come and go but nothing too bad. The main benefits I'm seeing from MSM is substantial nail and hair growth, huge decrease in acne even though I broke out when I first took it (a few friends of mine have noticed the difference too), and general pain in the body is reduced a lot. I love this stuff!
Posted 8/7/2017 1:42 AM (GMT 0)
I take MSM. Each pill is 1000 mg (1gram) and you are taking 25 grams, correct? Is there science behind this? MSM is a pretty harmless substance, so this is very good news.
Posted 8/7/2017 9:36 AM (GMT 0)
cr3ativegirl...currently, I'm at 18 pills day (18g) increasing 1 g every 2-3 days depending on how I feel (20g is still too much for me I feel wired all day). Hopefully I'll be able to tolerate 25g by the end of this month. Regarding the science behind it, I'm gonna make a post about all the research I've gathered about it once I'm done experimenting with it
Posted 8/8/2017 12:22 AM (GMT 0)
RedEyedArab,

Could you list how many times a day and how much you take for each treatment/supplement?
Posted 8/8/2017 1:37 PM (GMT 0)

afiya4health said...
RedEyedArab,

Could you list how many times a day and how much you take for each treatment/supplement?

I wake up really early in the day (otherwise I would get slight insomnia If I started taking MSM late) and take a vitamin c supplement (American Health Ester-C 1000 Mg Effervescent Powder Packets). Then take 6 grams of MSM at once and fast for probably 6 hours (drinking only tons of water). Then take 6 more grams before doing any exercise (whether its simple walking or lifting weights). Drink my post-workout protein shake with lots of colostrum, wait two hours Eat a huuuuuuuuuuge meal (Its really my only meal of the day equating to about 2600 calories) and take the last 6 grams after that meal. Of course, I mentioned doing coffee enemas twice a week (usually on weekends) and I wouldn't imagine eliminating all of my symptoms without them, so they're essential in my opinion. I fast because it keeps me much more alert than having food in my stomach, hence getting my college work done quicker. There are some supplements that I took for the gym before this whole ordeal started and still take such as BCAA's, occasionally pre-workout, and a gut binder from pure encapsulations called GI fortify (It contains psyllium husk, chlorella, flax, glutamine, aloe vera). Hope this helps!

Post Edited (RedEyedArab) : 8/8/2017 7:42:07 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/8/2017 1:45 PM (GMT 0)
RedEyedArab,

No the regime posted in your first post. When and how many times did you take each thing?
Posted 8/9/2017 1:43 PM (GMT 0)

afiya4health said...
RedEyedArab,

No the regime posted in your first post. When and how many times did you take each thing?

1-Houttuynia (at first I started with probably 5 drops used sporadically throughout the week then I was taking it practically every day reaching up to 70 drops until I stopped 3 months after)
2-Lithium orotate (1 pill of 5mg elemental lithium daily)
3-Red root (I took A LOT probably 120 drops daily, but I worked my way up of course)
4-Curcumin ( 2 pills of longvida brand)
5-Biopure 10 in 1 ozonated oil (Very potent and effective so start with 1 drop; I reached around 120 drops before I stopped it)
6-Results RNA ACS 200 Extra Strength Nasal Spray (forget about this don't think it helped me that much)
7- 4life transfer factor plus (two pills, though I recommend going straight for liposomal colostrum for increasing natural killer cells and preventing leaky gut as it's more effective from what I experienced during this treatment)
8-Hemp CBD oil (20-30 drops)
Posted 8/9/2017 2:00 PM (GMT 0)
I forgot to mention that I tooke all of these on an empty stomach (taken within a seven hour fasting period) except for lithium orotate and curcumin that need to be taken after a meal.
Posted 8/9/2017 2:07 PM (GMT 0)
lymepickle did respond to my email, thank goshawk.
here is a good article on combined abx for 3 forms of lyme.
does anyone else have info on using 2 or 3 of these.
http://www.lymepa.org/Chronic_Lyme_borreliosis_at_the_root_of_Multiple_Sclerosis_and_a_possible_cure_with_antibiotics.pdf

it confirms the Will Wiegman 60 day protocol using tindy and mino pulsed.
does anyone else have experience using these. please comment.
Posted 8/10/2017 5:30 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Red eyed Arab, congratulations on your successful protocol.

Did you really make it to 120 drops of biopure 10 in1? Did you use emulsifier kind or no-emulsifier.

Also how did you increase? Just 1 drop a day increase or were you increasing after by like 10 drops a day? I remember you were at 20 drops for awhile, then upto 30 drops. I'm surprised you hit 120 drops and how did you feel on that high dose? And you take just once per day right? And just mix in water or how did you take it? I have been taking it in pellegrino, it tastes like garlic pop! (If there were such thing as garlic pop)
Posted 8/11/2017 1:02 AM (GMT 0)
Hey lymepickle... I used the no-emulsifier. I remember maintaining a dose of about 70 drops then increased my dosage to about 100-120 drops for about a week before the bottle finished. I mix it with a tiny amount of lemon vitamin water and drink it straight to the throat (nasty stuff yuk!). Its powerful stuff cuz my anxiety was really high on that dosage and wasn't improving at all plus the muscle twitches and brain fog were still there so I had to ditch it. Still helped with other symptoms
Posted 5/15/2021 5:28 AM (GMT 0)

RedEye said...
Hey guys wanted to update this thread about my current protocol. I stopped all of the supplements I was using. All my symptoms are gone now since treating with high dose MSM (around 15-20g) using doctor's best brand (this a very high dose so be careful of the detox effect). Also I've been doing coffee enemas twice a week (never thought I'd be doing them) and I have to say they made the greatest difference the last 4 weeks. If you are easily grossed out don't read any further, but after the first time doing a coffee enema I passed what looked like biofilm (4 inches of slimy and sticky mucus). Every time I passed such a thing I would feel extremely better and my energy levels become insane. I know for sure this isn't candida and I definitely suspect that PR (produces lots of biofilm) is what was holding me back from full recovery. I'm also using liposomal colostrum to heal my leaky gut and I've had impressive results so far. Even in the gym, my stamina is surprisingly better.

Hi Redeye, thanks for sharing. Doing you think high dose MSM took it to the next level? My only symptoms currently are twitching and needle pain, which is getting less and less. I’ve been doing m tons of herbs plus started MSM due to this post and other things I read. Sulphur is antibacterial.
Posted 5/15/2021 7:55 AM (GMT 0)

Strengthtime said...

RedEye said...
Hey guys wanted to update this thread about my current protocol. I stopped all of the supplements I was using. All my symptoms are gone now since treating with high dose MSM (around 15-20g) using doctor's best brand (this a very high dose so be careful of the detox effect). Also I've been doing coffee enemas twice a week (never thought I'd be doing them) and I have to say they made the greatest difference the last 4 weeks. If you are easily grossed out don't read any further, but after the first time doing a coffee enema I passed what looked like biofilm (4 inches of slimy and sticky mucus). Every time I passed such a thing I would feel extremely better and my energy levels become insane. I know for sure this isn't candida and I definitely suspect that PR (produces lots of biofilm) is what was holding me back from full recovery. I'm also using liposomal colostrum to heal my leaky gut and I've had impressive results so far. Even in the gym, my stamina is surprisingly better.

Hi Redeye, thanks for sharing. Doing you think high dose MSM took it to the next level? My only symptoms currently are twitching and needle pain, which is getting less and less. I’ve been doing m tons of herbs plus started MSM due to this post and other things I read. Sulphur is antibacterial.



Welcome to the forum, Strengthtime!

Just wanted to let you know that RedEye hasn’t been on the forum for a couple years - so you prob won’t get a reply.
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