eating or drinking venom?

Anybody know anything about eating or drinking venom, as opposed to stings or injections?
Wondering if it could be effective. Maybe more systemic, less localized than stings? Certainly much easier, and venom can be harvested without killing the bees using a fairly simple venom harvester.
I didn't find much information when I tried searching for this online, so I am wondering if any of the BVT enthusiasts here know anything.

I have heard it's not as effective but have no first hand experience. I posted a similar question because i was considering putting a venom collector on one of my hives so i would have a convienant venom source in the winter. Typically foragers are used for bvt and they are at the end of their lives anyway. There is a bvt thread on here.
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3849732

I don't think drinking/eating it would be more systemic.


Doesn't the venom from the stings get into the blood stream?

I think it is absorbed into the bloodstream from the muscles/tissues.


But, is it absorbed into the bloodstream better than via the stomach? (taking it orally)


IDK

Intramuscular antibiotics do get into the bloodstream...

Idk they do make beevenom pills i bet it would be helpful for h.pylori with some mastic gum. On sting i imagine it hits capillaries and radiates some if not systemic . Dive deb thinks its about a 6-8radius of effect .elle lobel says she never stung her hands yet the arthritis is gone . Its my im abx of choice because its antiviral ,anti-inflammatory, antifungal antiviral and suprisingly pain relief.
With liquid venom . Venex is pretty pricy and pretty strong. I was tempted to put some in my iv but was advised against .my apitherapy teacher says not to hit a big vein and not to sting the throat

Joyous said...
Why stop with bees? Might as well go all out with some viper venom:
http://discovermagazine.com/2015/april/00-poison-medicine

and the good snakes also help us in other ways:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/onearth/what-are-snakes-good-for_b_3768439.html

Bill Haast did just that. Injecting himself weekly for years to the point his blood was used as antivenom. He attributted his life long good health to it. I wanted to be a herpetologist when i was a kid and he was someone i looked up to. However i don't think injecting yourself with snake venom would be a good idea for most people. Here is an excerpt from an article about him.

started importing the top-most deadly snakes of the world, he knew that a bite from any one of them could end his dream before it began. He also knew the basic process of antivenin production, and it was quite logical to assume that if horses could build up antibodies to snake venom proteins, why not he. So as a matter of self preservation, but perhaps more significant to Bill, to satisfy that intense scientific curiosity to see if it could be done and as always, challenge himself to the utmost, he began his immunization program on Sept. 10, 1948. He began with the injection of a highly diluted amount of cobra venom, and slowly over time added additional species until in later years he was receiving a mixture of over 30 different venoms in an injection once a week.



There were critics of his attempt at the time, one of whom remarked that he wouldn't give a nickel for Bill living three years; others expressed concern about what injecting such potent substances into a person's system might do to the internal organs. For many people that would be a legitimate concern, but Bill crossed the finish line of the marathon of life at the venerable age of 100, and until then, his organs were working just fine.

Post Edited (WV Mike) : 9/1/2017 5:46:23 AM (GMT-6)

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