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Posted 9/12/2017 6:35 PM (GMT 0)
Trying to understand results from Armin Labs.... amongst the results:
Borrelia Elispot- Borrelia b full antigen 3 SI -Borrelia OSP Mix 2SI
And ... CD 57 NK cells absolute : 4/ul.
Not sure what this means... can anyone help?
Posted 9/12/2017 7:40 PM (GMT 0)
Myparott - Can you post the ranges - they should be on the test results.

If I'm remembering correctly the Elispot result of 3 SI - Borrelia is a positive.

And your CD 57 is very low at 4.

(which often happens when we have untreated lyme disease.
Posted 9/12/2017 8:03 PM (GMT 0)
Your results are pretty similar to mine. Weak positive on borrelia and very low cd57

My diagnosis is in my signature. Did you test any co infections?
Posted 9/12/2017 8:54 PM (GMT 0)
I can't seem to copy and paste the test. But it says higher than 3 is positive. Theres just so much on this result sheets .... not sure which results are the important ones to look for. I am looking into Lyme myself as I was diagnosed as having MS about 10 years ago. I had lesions found on my brain. I've questioned the diagnosis. I was speaking to a NPD on a different issue, and he mentioned to me to test and research into Lyme.... just confused on all this...
Posted 9/12/2017 9:01 PM (GMT 0)
RedLabel: what would I be looking for on the sheet?
Posted 9/12/2017 9:12 PM (GMT 0)
Co infections are other infections and pathogens that are often found in people with borrelia. Some are bartonella, babesia, mycoplasma, chlamydia etc. These are separate tests that can be done.

If you did not specifically order them toy probably haven't had them done. They are quite expensive so you don't want to take more than necessary either. I know armin use a sheet where you can fill in your symptoms and they recommend testing for specific infections based on these. Have you done that or just ordered the borrelia test?
Posted 9/12/2017 9:50 PM (GMT 0)
RedLabel: I called Armin and ordered the tests they suggested to me at the time... there's a few comments on the results:
Please look at the results of the Borrelia EliSpot and the Cd57 and cell count...... another remark: The result of the Cd57- cell count indicates chronic immune suppression which can be caused by Borrelia burgdorferi or other bacteria like Chlamdia pneumoniae or Mycoplasma pneumoniae...... I have no idea what this means
Posted 9/12/2017 9:52 PM (GMT 0)
RedLabel: should I be contacting Armin for more tests?
Posted 9/12/2017 10:06 PM (GMT 0)
I think your best course forward is to find an LLMD, but that's not always easy depending on where you live. I guess you are in Europe?

You can also email armin and ask for help with your results or of they have any suggestions. They might recommend some additional testing for other pathogens.
Posted 9/12/2017 10:20 PM (GMT 0)
RedLabel: I'm in Canada and is difficult to find help in this area...thanks for your help
Posted 9/12/2017 11:13 PM (GMT 0)

Myparott said...
RedLabel: I'm in Canada and is difficult to find help in this area...thanks for your help

Myparott - Where in Canada? East or West or in between?

I may be able to help you (I don't think you've emailed me yet??)


I'm in BC, Canada and there are several options here in BC for treatment.
Ontario, Quebec have a few...but many go across the border to a LLMD in Plattsburgh.

Shoot me an email if you want my help.
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