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Posted 9/20/2017 10:49 PM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone! First time post but long time dropping in on different forums!

Need help? Or at least reassurance.

Have had weird symptoms for about 10 years the last 2 of which have been dreadful. Saw multiple docs as we all have. Found an LLMD that I think I trust that tested me negative for Lyme but positive for Bartonella and Babesia. Started dozy (which I feel is not enough) 1 week ago and nystatin for an antifungal.

This week has been probably my worst of the year but similar to pretty much my whole year last year and all my old symptoms.

Saturday- nauseous, anxious
Sunday- nauseous, anxious, stomach pain
Monday- same as Sunday
Tuesday- nauseous
Wednesday (today)- nauseous, anxious, emotional mess, stomach pain, was just outside with my son got hot, dizzy, felt like I was going to pass out.

Herx????

I called the LLMD and he says it could be and I could either 1)stop the doxy for 1 week and allow my system to detox more. Which btw I am using lemon water, skin brushing, Epsom salt baths for detox. 2)just muscle through it

Thoughts anyone?
Posted 9/20/2017 11:14 PM (GMT 0)
Hi lyndzylyndzy - welcome!

Sometimes the LLMD's will start us with one antibiotic, and then add to it...this can help minimize the herxing.

So one week in and you have a worsening of symptoms, plus some new ones?
That sounds like a herx - timing is right as well.

Questions: Are you taking liver support and probiotics?

Are you drinking enough water?

You could add in some more detoxing: A binder - eg. Activated Charcoal. Take it a couple hours away from everything else though, as it will usher everything in your stomach out with it.

Maybe some Nutramedix Pinella and Burbur OR Jernigan's Neuro-Anti-tox II - CNS/PNS

Are you able to do light exercise? Even a 10 minute walk....or some stretching, yoga...etc.

I think I would up the detox...and maybe take a day off and see how you feel.
Posted 9/20/2017 11:27 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Girlie, thanks!

I just started activated charcoal a few nights ago. Currently talking 2 capsules daily. Actually just took some hoping I can minimize these effects tonight.

I am on probiotic both sac bolardii, and a lacto bacillus mix. Taking liver support as well NAC and Thorne Liver Support.

Trying to drink water but of course with all this nausea anything is a deterrent. Have lost 15 pounds and dropping through all this! sad

I usually go out walking but haven't in the last two days due to this.

Will look into the things you mentioned. Also looking into CBD and the AmpCoil and essential oils.
Posted 9/20/2017 11:47 PM (GMT 0)
Sounds like you're doing a lot for detox already...that's great!

Always remember to drink a full glass (minimum) of water with the charcoal...it can be constipating otherwise.


I hope the CBD oil works for you. Many have had success with it.
Unfortunately it didn't help me.

i do use essential oils in my detox bath - lavender and marjoram (two I had read that are good for nerve pain)
Posted 9/20/2017 11:57 PM (GMT 0)
I'm trying but unfortunately when I get like this I get scared. Just want to rid of this already!!!

Why did the CBD not work for you?

Please tell me this gets better!!!
Posted 9/21/2017 12:02 AM (GMT 0)
Yes, it gets better!!

But, don't expect a quick fix. It may take awhile before you feel better.


I don't know why the CBD oil didn't help me...it doesn't work for everyone.
I read something about CBD receptors
Posted 9/21/2017 11:36 AM (GMT 0)
Ok so guess I'm still paranoid.

Didn't sleep all night, hot flashes, sweats, nausea, wretching, abdominal pain, anxiety.

Still a herx??? Guess I should lay off the abx today??

Post Edited (lyndzylyndzy) : 9/21/2017 6:22:27 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/21/2017 4:46 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, I would take a break.


Take the day and rest, detox. Do you dry brush your skin before the epsom baths?

If you don't have a brush....try a face cloth...one that has been wet and then air-dried works quite well.
I've ruined two dry brushes - dropped them into the tub...and they got moldy.
So, I'm using the face cloth method now!

Hope you feel better soon!
Posted 9/21/2017 5:19 PM (GMT 0)
Yes Girlie I brush before the baths.

Was just about to swallow the doxy and came on here to check what others recommended. Think I will take a break today.

I'm just so darn tired and cant sleep. Not to mention my stomach is a mess!
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