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Posted 9/21/2017 6:01 PM (GMT 0)
I remember using DMSO on horses back when I used to jump. We also used to give them shots of glucosamine before it was popular for humans. I wonder if DMSO is given internally to animals now? Seems like they are often the guinea pigs first.

We also used to use mineral ice. I don't know if they still make it, but if I can find it I may try it on my muscles.

Editing to add this link. I did a quick search because I was curious. The article is interesting.

https://equusmagazine.com/lameness/dmso-for-horses-8468
"When DMSO penetrates the skin and other membranes, it can readily carry many types of complex molecules with it---and that capability is often harnessed to help carry other drugs deeper into the targeted tissues."
"Not all drugs work well with DMSO, depending on their molecular weight, shape and electrochemistry. And DMSO will not carry bacteria or viruses across cell membranes because they are too large."

Post Edited (Kat1000) : 9/21/2017 12:19:47 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/21/2017 6:08 PM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
Lapis - We have bought that brand..but in the glass bottles.

The product I used was a cream, though - in a plastic container but it did not have an odor to it.


I know when my husband 'paints' the liquid on full strength - it does produce an odor....but I don't think it does in the container...only when he uses it...the odor seems to come out of his pores.

I just dont trust that brand.

I only use Pharma grade, in or outside the body. That seems best to me
Posted 9/21/2017 6:16 PM (GMT 0)

Lapis_29 said...

Girlie said...
Lapis - We have bought that brand..but in the glass bottles.

The product I used was a cream, though - in a plastic container but it did not have an odor to it.


I know when my husband 'paints' the liquid on full strength - it does produce an odor....but I don't think it does in the container...only when he uses it...the odor seems to come out of his pores.

I just dont trust that brand.

I only use Pharma grade, in or outside the body. That seems best to me

We've never taken it internally...just topically.
Posted 9/23/2017 3:42 PM (GMT 0)
UPDATE

more good things happening.

Since I am disabled from 30 years of misdiagnosed Lyme I spend a lot of time at the computer and TV.

by 3 or 4 pm my eyes are bleary and unfocused. Hard to even see the screen sometimes.

decided to use DMSO. On another forum people are actually using DMSO eye drops but I didn't want to do that. So I just rubbed some DMSO on my temples right next to my eyes. After 5 days of that eye fatigue and bleariness has improved by 60 - 70%!

yeah! Can now see the screen perfectly fine most of the day, and will continue to use the DMSO on my temples/eyes

this stuff is like a cure all.
Posted 9/30/2017 11:05 PM (GMT 0)
I'm suffering from Babesia and Bartonella with my main symptoms being headaches (eye pressure, nose pressure, base of skull pressure, etc.). The muscles on the side of my neck are sometime sore and I go hoarse every now and then. I have 8 ounces of pharma grade 99.97 DMSO but am confused how to apply.
-should I dilute?
-should I mix with other supplements

My primary objective is to apply to my temples/head/neck in hopes it will give me some relief. Although I have never had encephalitis or meningitis, what I am feeling seems to be similar - at least whatever is contained in my skull, seems to want out.

Any help is appreciated.
Posted 10/1/2017 12:19 AM (GMT 0)

swimman said...
I'm suffering from Babesia and Bartonella with my main symptoms being headaches (eye pressure, nose pressure, base of skull pressure, etc.). The muscles on the side of my neck are sometime sore and I go hoarse every now and then. I have 8 ounces of pharma grade 99.97 DMSO but am confused how to apply.
-should I dilute?
-should I mix with other supplements

My primary objective is to apply to my temples/head/neck in hopes it will give me some relief. Although I have never had encephalitis or meningitis, what I am feeling seems to be similar - at least whatever is contained in my skull, seems to want out.

Any help is appreciated.

first check out this thread on IH, which it sounds like you might have

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3917627

Apply a very small amount to the skin, see how you react. Then apply a bit more the next day.

Keep applying it and see how you do, guage how you react and listen to your body. apply everywhere you have pain.

you can mix B12 in, get liquid B12 with no additives, no flavoring (I use 'bio - alternatives' brand

if you dont want to do the B12, you can apply it to your skin straight, but it will burn for about 20 minutes or so. dillute it 80/20 with water to reduce burning sensation, but diluting it does lessen its potency.

once you feel comfortable with it, apply it everywhere you have pain. if skin gets dry, chapped, apply a good vit E/aloe cream to it.
Posted 10/1/2017 12:45 AM (GMT 0)
Lapis, thanks for the info.

My IH has come and gone for a few years. However, it came back this past May and was here to stay. It has been worse at times and actually last week, was not too bad that I got two separate bike rides in over 20 miles each. I thought I was getting better but the past three days have proved me wrong. Seeing the LLMD a week from Wednesday and plan to ask for a MRI and lumbar punture as I need some relief.

I'll order some B12 tomorrow to mix with the DMSO. After reading your post I did put some on a q tip and apply a little to my temples and back of neck. Some slight burning but I reluctantly applied a small amount. Tomorrow I'll be more brave! Hopefully, I will get similar results to yours. Thanks again.
Posted 10/1/2017 2:35 AM (GMT 0)

swimman said...
Lapis, thanks for the info.

My IH has come and gone for a few years. However, it came back this past May and was here to stay. It has been worse at times and actually last week, was not too bad that I got two separate bike rides in over 20 miles each. I thought I was getting better but the past three days have proved me wrong. Seeing the LLMD a week from Wednesday and plan to ask for a MRI and lumbar punture as I need some relief.

I'll order some B12 tomorrow to mix with the DMSO. After reading your post I did put some on a q tip and apply a little to my temples and back of neck. Some slight burning but I reluctantly applied a small amount. Tomorrow I'll be more brave! Hopefully, I will get similar results to yours. Thanks again.

base of neck was key for me, soft spot where neck and skull meet. also the more you use the more affective it is
Posted 10/9/2017 1:58 AM (GMT 0)
This is fascinating. My dad would have loved to read all of this when he was alive. I said he swore by DMSO, but I didn't tell you he was a surgeon and read medical journals for fun.

Post Edited (Alyeska) : 10/8/2017 8:10:59 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/9/2017 2:28 AM (GMT 0)
Isnt DMSO whats used for I.V chelation for heavy metals?

In June(ish)2014, My 1st ND focused on I.V. chelation alingwith Lyme herbal tincture, and of course supplements such as NAC, and B12.

Anyhoo, I did several weeks of I.V. chelation. I had a pretty good year 2015, up until a trip to East Coast where I got a tick bite w/a smallish pale colored bullseye...yep Lyme AGAIN!!!

Very end of 2015 I began seeing an official LLND, who has gone from using only traditional chinese herbal and homeopathic medicine, to moving on to big pharma ABX summer of 2016!

Im co sidering the heavy metals detox aka DMSO I.V chelation again, as my last metals tezt was still high...

Uhg...
Posted 10/9/2017 2:48 AM (GMT 0)

mcspike said...
Isnt DMSO whats used for I.V chelation for heavy metals?

In June(ish)2014, My 1st ND focused on I.V. chelation alingwith Lyme herbal tincture, and of course supplements such as NAC, and B12.

Anyhoo, I did several weeks of I.V. chelation. I had a pretty good year 2015, up until a trip to East Coast where I got a tick bite w/a smallish pale colored bullseye...yep Lyme AGAIN!!!

Very end of 2015 I began seeing an official LLND, who has gone from using only traditional chinese herbal and homeopathic medicine, to moving on to big pharma ABX summer of 2016!

Im co sidering the heavy metals detox aka DMSO I.V chelation again, as my last metals tezt was still high...

Uhg...

no thats DMSA, easy to confuse!

you can get DMSA w/o a prescription, no need to do the expensive IV route. lipoic acid also works as a mercury chelator.
Posted 10/9/2017 3:07 AM (GMT 0)
Lapis_29,
Exactly what brand B12 liquid do you use?
Posted 10/9/2017 3:22 AM (GMT 0)

herbalwhiz said...
Lapis_29,
Exactly what brand B12 liquid do you use?

bio alternatives

bio-alternatives.net/b12.htm
Posted 10/15/2017 3:48 PM (GMT 0)
best place to get legit pharma grade DMSO

www.dmsostore.com/

www.amazon.com/DMSO-Store/b/ref=bl_dp_s_web_14057716011?ie=UTF8&node=14057716011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=DMSO+Store
Posted 10/15/2017 8:49 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting thread, Lapis_29

Does anyone have success using DMSO topically or internally for scleroderma?

-p
Posted 10/15/2017 9:14 PM (GMT 0)
this is the brand of DMSO I use:

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZNV5N8U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

there are certain plastic bottles you can use to store DMSO i just can't remember which ones they are. to be safe i always just get glass bottles.

Lapis if you read this thread, are you doing oral consumption daily? i heard it kills the good and bad bacteria in the gut so have to take probiotics with it? trying to absorb daily through skin is effective but heard not as penetrating/effective as taking it orally.
Posted 10/15/2017 10:03 PM (GMT 0)

Rikky1 said...
this is the brand of DMSO I use:

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZNV5N8U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

there are certain plastic bottles you can use to store DMSO i just can't remember which ones they are. to be safe i always just get glass bottles.

Lapis if you read this thread, are you doing oral consumption daily? i heard it kills the good and bad bacteria in the gut so have to take probiotics with it? trying to absorb daily through skin is effective but heard not as penetrating/effective as taking it orally.

i took orally for a while but my tummy didn't like it too much

also my main issues right now are joint pain, to applying it directly to the joints makes the most sense for me anyway.
Posted 10/15/2017 10:23 PM (GMT 0)
Can this help CNS symptoms of lyme? Nerve inflammation/damage and the negative effects that it causes?

It's hard to find info on what it does. Meaning when it enters the body it does ABC to XYZ on a cellular level.

There's a lot of it does this and that but "how"? It does those things because it *insert scientific explanation*.
Posted 10/16/2017 7:41 PM (GMT 0)
I wonder this too. I should have my first bottles will be arriving soon. I will report back my experiences.
Posted 10/16/2017 8:29 PM (GMT 0)
A bit of information on DMSO and CNS (including IH)


www.dmso.org/articles/information/muir.htm

/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19443933
Posted Yesterday 3:46 PM (GMT 0)
I will be purchasing some of this today. I was thinking of mixing it with an essential oil such as tea tree oil or possibly oregano and applying it topically to the base of my neck and down my spine.

My question is - do i leave on or wipe it off after a certain amount of time? And do I need to dilute it?

I've read different ways of applying it. Some people just put it on straight outta the bottle
Posted Yesterday 4:01 PM (GMT 0)
you can wipe off after a bit. in terms of dilution i think it depends on what you can tolerate. some say it burns and can't use it straight up. others say more like a sunburn and fine with it (usually dies down in 20 min). the topical solutions they sell online are usually 70% DMSO.

perfectly fine to combine DMSO with an essential oil. be very careful to not contaminate the two substances when you apply since DMSO will pick it up and your body will absorb as well.
Posted Yesterday 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Ricky. I did read to make sure your hands and the site you are applying to should be super clean.

There are some pretty interesting combos you can make with dmso. I suppose if you took it orally with abx, that make the abx more effective?
Posted Yesterday 4:53 PM (GMT 0)

Hoagie said...
Thanks Ricky. I did read to make sure your hands and the site you are applying to should be super clean.

There are some pretty interesting combos you can make with dmso. I suppose if you took it orally with abx, that make the abx more effective?

yes, it likely will.

just be aware it tastes awful. drink something acidic immediately after. full dose is 30 ml, any more than that you are on your own.
Posted Yesterday 5:07 PM (GMT 0)

Lapis_29 said...

Hoagie said...
Thanks Ricky. I did read to make sure your hands and the site you are applying to should be super clean.

There are some pretty interesting combos you can make with dmso. I suppose if you took it orally with abx, that make the abx more effective?

yes, it likely will.

just be aware it tastes awful. drink something acidic immediately after. full dose is 30 ml, any more than that you are on your own.

Mix it with water or juice?
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