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Posted 10/23/2017 1:52 PM (GMT 0)
Are there any binders that remove excess estrogen?
Posted 10/23/2017 2:53 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know anything to remove it quickly.

I googled (which you probably did, too) and found this:

www.care2.com/greenliving/8-natural-ways-to-get-rid-of-excess-estrogen.html
Posted 10/23/2017 3:25 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not familiar with binders that do this, but I have used supplements that help the body remove excess estrrgoen with relative success, such as CanPrev's Healthy Hormones. That one worked the best for me, and I did experience a noticeable difference in my symptoms. I have quite bad estrogen dominance and poor detoxification, so I didn't get full relief until I started on a low dose of bio-identical progesterone combined with ongoing detoxification.
Posted 10/23/2017 3:31 PM (GMT 0)
Dr. John R. Lee talks about estrogen dominance a lot and his advice is to add progesterone cream to counter balance the over abundance of estrogen.

He has a ton of books out there that he wrote before he died in 2003. I think I read him in 1990. His advice is still spot on.

PS, it sure helped me over some rough spots - fibroid cystic breasts, uterine fibroid tumors, mood and horribly painful cramps.
Posted 10/23/2017 4:09 PM (GMT 0)
Great topic that I can identify with and will be following for answers.

My ignorance in the oestrogen content of Flax Seed Oil led to me overusing it and I have not fully recovered from doing so.

I am fearful of adding to much Yohimbe which would raise testosterone. I imagine this is another way to indirectly approach the balancing of estrogen levels.

Another thing not mention in the article that Girlie googled is do not handle the thermal receipts given with your change at the register.
Posted 10/23/2017 4:33 PM (GMT 0)
Well, well. I was going to paste a link here to Lara Briden's website, as I've found her articles to be very informative, and the article I happened to click on has something that might answer the question to my other post about fermented food.

www.larabriden.com/the-curious-link-between-estrogen-and-histamine-intolerance/

Fermented food and sauerkraut she says are high in histamine and there's a connection between histamine and estrogen.

I haven't had a period since June, so I hadn't given hormones much thought until a few days ago. OCD hit hard Saturday with compulsive cleaning and tidying, which is a strong PMS symptom for me.

I so wish I had a more scientific mind to understand all the tangled mess my body is dealing with. I also wish I was much more of a doer than just a reader. I've read more stuff in the last few years than I did in all 12 years of school, but I can't seem to put much of any of it into practice. I'm one of those confounded people who have to understand something before they can jump in and do it. Needless to say, I waste a lot of time and am my own worst enemy.
Posted 10/23/2017 4:40 PM (GMT 0)

Celie said...
I'm not familiar with binders that do this, but I have used supplements that help the body remove excess estrrgoen with relative success, such as CanPrev's Healthy Hormones. That one worked the best for me, and I did experience a noticeable difference in my symptoms. I have quite bad estrogen dominance and poor detoxification, so I didn't get full relief until I started on a low dose of bio-identical progesterone combined with ongoing detoxification.

Celie,

I have lots of detox difficulties, too, which is making all this way too complicated for me. I don't even know exactly what is causing my detox problems.

Did you have tests done to find out why you're a poor detoxer? What do you do for detoxification?
Posted 10/23/2017 5:00 PM (GMT 0)
Yes WalkingbyFaith, I had a specific genetic testing done for hormonal issues.

The test identified me as a poor estrogen detoxifier and that I'm at high risk of diseases related to "toxic estrogen". (I can't remember the full details, just that I have strong estrogen dominance and the genes I inherited that control estorgen detox pathways are really bad.) I have had numerous health issues due to estrogen dominance (endo, fibroids, fluctuating cycles, fibrocystic breasts, horrible cramp pain, and PMS that made me feel like I was losing my mind--no exaggeration).

I also had more general genetic testing and found that I got the fuzzy end of the (genetic) lollipop re. MTHFR mutation--taking biofolate and methylcobalamin changed my life, as did adding in progesterone (I also started DHEA, but I'm not sure if that played a role or not). In addition to this, I take epsom salt baths, have series of colonics done now and then, and take charcoal and/or other binders at times. My ND gave me a couple of anti-oxidant supplements designed to help detoxification, but I stopped taking them because they irritated my stomach too much. I know I should be doing much more, but that's all I can manage at the moment.

I'm sorry to hear you are having some of these issues too. They are not fun. I really hope you find something helpful and start to feel a bit better very soon.
Posted 10/23/2017 5:18 PM (GMT 0)
Well, you could give me some of your estrogen. Mine tanked when Lyme hit.
Haven't had a period since.
It put me into menopause....probably a few years earlier than I would have.

Never did get the peri-menopause stage.
Posted 10/23/2017 9:09 PM (GMT 0)
You can remove toxic estogen with Nature's Way - DIM- plus, I got it from iHerb - it works.
I have a persistent ovarian cyst that creates pain for me - since starting an estrogen detox there has been no pain.
I am also using Clary Sage - an essential oil but you can only use that (topically) for short periods. It helps too.
Posted 10/24/2017 1:23 AM (GMT 0)
My LLMD recommended Calcium D Glucarate. You can google it and ask your doctor about it.
Posted 10/24/2017 7:11 AM (GMT 0)
I would look to reduce aluminum levels as they can block estrogen conversion.
Posted 10/24/2017 1:49 PM (GMT 0)

Georgia Hunter said...
I would look to reduce aluminum levels as they can block estrogen conversion.

The MegaHydrate product is supposed to do just that. RedEyeArab had great success with it. I have it on order.
Not sure if we can ever reduce nano aluminum that we breathe in but its worth trying.
It has phosphorus in it also. Seems like a logical addition addressing many of my concerns and needs. Will let you know.
Posted 10/24/2017 5:51 PM (GMT 0)
I use Kokoro progesterone cream which is one of the brands Dr. Lee recommends. It was helping, but I noticed after a few weeks of rifampin I've had an increase in chills/sweats. My body temp was 95.4 the other night! I stopped taking it after that so it may have gone down more.

I'm going to take a break from the rifampin (which is for bart) and focus on herbals and essential oils. I'm in perimenopause, and I know everything needs to work together.
Posted 10/24/2017 6:04 PM (GMT 0)

ChickenArise said...

Georgia Hunter said...
I would look to reduce aluminum levels as they can block estrogen conversion.

The MegaHydrate product is supposed to do just that. RedEyeArab had great success with it. I have it on order.
Not sure if we can ever reduce nano aluminum that we breathe in but its worth trying.
It has phosphorus in it also. Seems like a logical addition addressing many of my concerns and needs. Will let you know.

Is this product safe to use if you have intact amalgams?
Posted 10/24/2017 9:49 PM (GMT 0)

Kat1000 said...
t I noticed after a few weeks of rifampin I've had an increase in chills/sweats. My body temp was 95.4 the other night!

If I didnt know better I would say Bart pleomorphs into Babs and vice versa based on everyone's experiences here.


On Megahydrate being safe with amalgams I can only guess. I would guess safe. It is only going to remove those metals that are buried deep in our system and not pull metal out of your mouth.

The amalgams will leech with or without megahydrate. The mercury in the mouth doesn't cause toxicity until it leeches from the mouth, which it will with hot drinks.
Posted 10/25/2017 8:18 AM (GMT 0)

ChickenArise said...

Georgia Hunter said...
I would look to reduce aluminum levels as they can block estrogen conversion.

The MegaHydrate product is supposed to do just that. RedEyeArab had great success with it. I have it on order.
Not sure if we can ever reduce nano aluminum that we breathe in but its worth trying.
It has phosphorus in it also. Seems like a logical addition addressing many of my concerns and needs. Will let you know.

I'm interested in that one, keep us informed.
Posted 10/27/2017 6:40 AM (GMT 0)
I read this morning about increasing estrogen removal by increasing fiber intake. Studies show that vegetarians excrete about 3 times more estrogen in their stools compared to omnivores. This is why omnivores have a 50% increase in blood estrogen levels compared to women on a plant based diet. Bacteria in the GI tract of both males and females can create estrogens. A plant based diet reduces those bacteria and helps with estrogen elimination.
Posted 10/27/2017 7:30 AM (GMT 0)

Georgia Hunter said...
I read this morning about increasing estrogen removal by increasing fiber intake. Studies show that vegetarians excrete about 3 times more estrogen in their stools compared to omnivores. This is why omnivores have a 50% increase in blood estrogen levels compared to women on a plant based diet. Bacteria in the GI tract of both males and females can create estrogens. A plant based diet reduces those bacteria and helps with estrogen elimination.

Particularly Cruciferous veggies
Posted 10/27/2017 7:34 PM (GMT 0)

Georgia Hunter said...
I read this morning about increasing estrogen removal by increasing fiber intake. Studies show that vegetarians excrete about 3 times more estrogen in their stools compared to omnivores. This is why omnivores have a 50% increase in blood estrogen levels compared to women on a plant based diet. Bacteria in the GI tract of both males and females can create estrogens. A plant based diet reduces those bacteria and helps with estrogen elimination.

Maybe I have too much bacteria in my gut from lifelong constipation and slow gut motility.

If gut dysbiosis is the root problem for us, why can't we just take some abx to kill ALL the bacteria and then start over by eating fermented food and taking probiotics to get the flora corrected? I know it doesn't work that way, but why not?
Posted 10/28/2017 9:59 AM (GMT 0)

WalkingbyFaith said...

Georgia Hunter said...
I read this morning about increasing estrogen removal by increasing fiber intake. Studies show that vegetarians excrete about 3 times more estrogen in their stools compared to omnivores. This is why omnivores have a 50% increase in blood estrogen levels compared to women on a plant based diet. Bacteria in the GI tract of both males and females can create estrogens. A plant based diet reduces those bacteria and helps with estrogen elimination.

Maybe I have too much bacteria in my gut from lifelong constipation and slow gut motility.

If gut dysbiosis is the root problem for us, why can't we just take some abx to kill ALL the bacteria and then start over by eating fermented food and taking probiotics to get the flora corrected? I know it doesn't work that way, but why not?

You can't kill all of the bacteria. Antibiotics can only kill certain ones. Bacterial diversity of the GI tract is the key and when you take a lot of antibiotics, the bacteria that don't get killed increase in number and that can cause issues.

Fermented foods usually are high in gram positive bacteria. That is what many of us are deficient of but if other bacteria are already present on the ville in the lumen of the intestines, where are the gram positive bacteria going to live? They often can't just root the other bacteria out of the way so they can live there. The other bacteria present are often in too high of numbers and need to be reduced. What kind of bacteria are those? It varies per individual, but they are often gram negative anaerobes. What do gram negative anaerobes use for energy............nitrates, sulfates, iron, manganese, etc, and even heavy metals like lead and mercury. So here lies a problem. If you give them foods rich in nitrogen, sulfur, and iron, they can grow and thrive. If you keep these foods away from them, they will start dying. Them dying is what we need so the gram positive bacteria can have a place to flourish. But when they die, they release their contents and their toxins. Their contents can be metals and the immune response to this is often too great for many people. They feel too bad and get worse.

So we need some of these gram negative anaerobes but not too many. There is no easy way to do it. Ever heard of fecal transplants? They can be very beneficial.
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