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Posted 11/25/2017 5:18 PM (GMT 0)
I really have no idea ??
Posted 11/25/2017 5:45 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Grandmacow -

I'm not sure if I understand your question - you are feeling shakey, confused, anxious but you don't have physical pain?

This is normal - there are many symptoms that the infections can cause and sometimes the treatment can also cause them because of the herxing or sepsis-like response your body might have to the antimicrobials.

Can you increase your detoxing? Are you eating a good diet? Are your bowel movements regular?

Often, the anxiety and confusion can be caused by toxins in the GI that reach the brain. Staying regular can help. So can using a GI binder. Also, there are brain detoxing tinctures like Pinella and Burbur that can help.

-p
Posted 11/25/2017 11:52 PM (GMT 0)
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Thank you for getting back to me... when I am experiencing symptoms such as shakiness, confusion and anxiety I do not feel physical pain- just those symptoms. As well as being unsteady and walking is difficult.

As far as increasing my detoxing, I am taking metrizole and ceftin antiobiotics. I took a half metrizole (they are 250 mg so half would be 125 mg) and I am very certain that I was herxing that day. My doctor prescribed the 250mg but when I started experiencing adverse symptoms (which I now know is more than likely herxing) he told me that I should cut back to half a pill.

I am eating a good diet... in fact that is the one thing that I am very confident I am doing right. I am following a strict diet with no gluten, sugar, etc, etc. Lots of veggies and green kale shakes. I was doing spinach but was told by provider that my histamine levels were high and took the spinach out. My BM's are regular and normal thus far. I take epsom salt baths and saunas regularly to help with the detox process. I also drink fresh lemon water. I am about to try to introduce chaga tea in addition to my corticep mushroom and other supplements.

What kind of testing- before or after your diagnosis- have you had to confirm or dismiss the type and amount of bacteria/co-infection/microbials? Is there a way to track progress or levels of these types of things? I am looking into additional testing with a chiropractic office that offers functional medicine with kinesiology testing. I feel that things have been overlooked or missed and trying to get empirical and quanitifiable answers as to what is living in my body and what I am fighting.

As far as dealing with the herxing and other symptoms, besides detoxing & medication what kind of coping mechanisms and tools have you used? My anxiety is becoming the number one concern as I feel very lost and down about this process and my progress.

Thank you so much for your feedback, it is greatly appreciated.
Posted 11/26/2017 7:07 AM (GMT 0)
i have bad news for you. take your scientist hat off. there is no empyrical quantifiable answer about anything with lyme. the modern medicine does not have tools to track stealth infection levels in tissues for microbes that are in very low numbers and divide very slowly like lyme.

u can get confirmation they still exist in your body by PCR. also microscopy. but that's where science ends.

number of microbes in you.... no way.
Posted 11/26/2017 8:50 AM (GMT 0)
Unfortunately there isn't a good, reliable test to gauge when you're finished treatment...and in remission.
This is gauged by symptom resolution.

Some detox ideas:

- Make sure you're drinking plenty of water every day.
- You can add some fresh lemon juice into some glasses
- Take a GI binder (eg. Activated Charcoal) - to be taken a couple hours away from EVERYTHING else.
- Protect your gut - with daily probiotics
- Support your liver - eg. Milk Thistle Seed Extract OR Pekana Apo-Hepat
- take warm epsom salt baths
- Dry brush your skin prior to baths.
- Take a brain detox: EG. Nutramedix Pinella OR Jernigan's Neuro-Antitox II - CNS/PNS

Start with a couple methods...and gradually build on your list - you will want to do multiple methods on a daily basis.

Probiotics - are a must right away...

Here's a website with some detox ideas:

www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html
Posted 11/26/2017 4:18 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Grandmacow -

Unfortunately, I agree with the others - the testing for Lyme & Co is woefully inadequate and inaccurate. The more accurate approach - and not easy, though - is to deconstruct your symptoms and track them every day. Here is a good sx list to help you get started.

Jernigan's symptom list:
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3673749&g=3673789#m3673789

There is also a post in the “New to Lyme?” Thread by member Cajun Girl that includes a link to a symptom documentation spreadsheet. You can email one of the mods to help you.

Your diet sounds great! That's half the battle.

As Girlie suggested, your best bet is to start detoxing and learn about various protocol you want to try out different protocols to see what you might respond to.

Keep asking questions and searching for answers - Lyme requires each of us to build a customized treatment plan. But you can learn from what others have done.

-p
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