Really need some advice please - RIFE

Scooterbuglyme said...
Thanks lapis do you have to pay for them

yes, but they are only $15 - 20 per pathogen set, and then you can own them for life and can use them as much as you like. very reasonable.

agree with many 15 minutes WAY too long to start. i would start with a few frequencies at 1 minute each and gauge results.

I use Rife. It is not my main therapy (BVT with antibiotics is), but I have found Rife to be very helpful most of the time. The key is using a machine that is powerful enough, and, secondly, using the right frequencies for what you are infected with. But, that can be hit and miss between users even if people have the same infections. Probably because of strain variation.

I hate to tell you this, but, the machine you are using is the same model I used for a short period of time and it ONLY stirred up my infections.....but didn't seem to be killing them. So, I bought a BCX Ultra and that has been doing well for me. Plasma devices are better than contact devices. If you could add the MOPA plasma setup for your GB4000 machine, that would be as good. I have heard good reports from those using MOPA. MOPA uses a plasma bulb. Plasma has much better penetration and killing power than a plain contact device like what you are using.

I personally think when a person feels bad from using Rife it is because of two things. NOT ENOUGH power, or not the right numbers (if power is adequate). Not enough power just stirs up the bugs but doesn't kill them, and using the wrong numbers just hits things that aren't causing you problems and this further upsets the balance between the infections and allows the dominant pathogen to get further out of control.... thus causing you to feel much worse.

Many times there is almost no discernable difference in symptoms between the big 3 (Lyme, Bart, and Babs), especially between Bart and Babs. So, when I use numbers to hit one and I only feel worse, I use numbers that hit one of the others. Say I use a number typically used for Bart such as 357 or 832, but feel worse. Then, I know I'm hitting the wrong infection so I will then use ones that are typically used for Babs, or even ones for Lyme. It depends somewhat on the symptom presentation as to which infection I decide to target. Sometimes I have to target an altogether different infection than the usual Lyme ones. When I hit the right infection, I NEVER feel worse. I only feel tired and better. That is the result you are after.

But, I personally feel you will not be able to kill any of the infections with the machine you are currently using unless you get the accessories to run MOPA (plasma).

TOOTY said...
When I hit the right infection, I NEVER feel worse. I only feel tired and better. That is the result you are after.

But, I personally feel you will not be able to kill any of the infections with the machine you are currently using unless you get the accessories to run MOPA (plasma).

I will mostly agree with this

plasma is definitely best, much much better than contact.

when I use the DNA freqs, I almost always just feel better. There is one exception - lyme. I get mercury dumps from treating lyme no matter what method I use. But i had a mercury poisoning incident, so this will not apply to 99% of people.

Lapis_29 said...

Girlie said...
Tooty - I don't know anything about Rife but wanted to ask you a question-
You stated that if you feel worse after a treatment then you've hit the wrong infection.
But generally when we treat - with other modalities - antibiotics or Herbs.. etc - we expect to feel worse because the dieoff of the bacteria produces endotoxins - resulting in a herx.

How come it is different with Rife?

this is a great question, and one I have pondered.

I just finished a rife treatment (targetting babesia, herpes 1, 3, 5 and staph using DNA freqs) just now and I feel fantastic, although a bit drained, but still very good. alert and alive.

I honestly believe a lot of what people are calling herx is just negative side effects of ABX. thats my theory anyway, cant prove it.

I reduced terrible awful Babesia symptoms (insomnia, air hunger, heart palpitations, fever etc) by about 80% using only rife , nothing else, in about 2 months.

Herxheimer reactions are real.
I know prior to Lyme - the few times in my life that I remember being on abx - I never had any adverse side effects. I just felt better.

Interesting though with the Rife.

bluelyme said...

Girlie said...

Lapis_29 said...
I am the only one on this board currently using rife that i know of.

Bluelyme not using Rife anymore?

What about Evanston and Sebreg?

i did start slow 2x a week but then found a new doc and new theory .will explain.
also i did zith riffy for a few months followed by many of allicin and hh2 .

so this ist made rife schedule, base on what path9gen priority the body wants first . Babs was easily got in 7 months rifing 3-4 x a week for it (plus artmesia). If each pathogen can vary in size with age like i have seen in the microscope then sweeping like i did to cover the point at which the frequency is effective to shatter its cell wall. So it consisted of rifing 2-3 pathogens a day for about 1-1.5 hrs for 14 months ...i had 9 critters .this is how im treating some clients now custom tailored with other therapys.

some may actually experience emf tox if copper levels are off ...not everything is a herx

what frequencies are you using? are you deriving specific frequencies for individuals?

TOOTY said...
But, MY observation has been that if you FEEL WORSE after treating, it is almost always because you upset the balance between the infections, or have only stirred them up but didn't kill them (you piss them off just like when you mess with a bee hive). It's almost never because of a herx.

thats a real possibility. some of these rife treatments with incorrect freqs probably do nothing but stir up and rile up pathogens and then ppl say "well thats a herx! that means its working!"

I definitely killed babesia in my system with rife DNA freqs and never had a bad herx. Only felt drained and hungry, but always felt really good afterwards.

cant say why ABX produce such terrible herx's. just dont understand it.