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Posted 11/26/2017 8:16 PM (GMT 0)
My collarbone is pushed out anyone experience this before?

I plan to do colon, liver and kidney cleanse.
Should i drink atleast 3 liters of water for all the cleanse?
How long to wait before doing another cleanse?
How long will the liver and kidney cleanse take?

Colon will be the one from Dr. Clark.

Would like to know if anyone tried the below cleanse.
Beetroot and lemon juice to detox your liver.
(1) Grated Ginger, Hot boiled water, Honey and Lemon Juice for kidney cleanse
OR (2) Lemons, Cold Water glass and Honey for kidney cleanse

"Powdered herbs oxidize quickly" Anyone experience this?Or know what it mean

Do it have any herbs for persisters bacteria/cells?

https://www.herbco.com/ I plan to buy the parasite cleanse and Fennel for colon cleanse herbs from this website and would like to know which one is best to buy, example: organic cloves or cloves?

When treating lyme disease and co-infections i should try to avoid Herx?
If i herx should i do a detox?

Do i have to be clear of lyme disease and co-infection 2 months before doing tests?

I am using coconut oil for candida

The list below help me with my symptoms: (include the cold shower)
Baking soda and water
ACV and water
ACV and baking soda
ACV and lemon juice
ACV and honey
Lemon juice and honey
lemon juice and water

My Detox are:
Epsom salt and acv with warm water.
Shower (Cold)
Posted 11/26/2017 9:02 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Carib_Lyme - welcome to our community.

One of my collarbones was more prominent than the other. I had frozen shoulder from lyme one of my ribs in the front was also sticking out more than the other.

It's balanced out now. I think it was from muscle atrophy. That was my first symptom..the shoulder blade - excruciating pain, and muscle atrophy. my left arm was limp and numb when it first happened.

Is yours' (collarbone) pushed out on both sides?

I haven't done the cleanses - so I can't recommend anything on that.

You should minimize your herxing by getting a good detox schedule going. This means multiple methods every day.
... every few days add in another one.


Are you Taking probiotics?
Taking a liver support supplement - such as Milk thistle seed extract?


Some things to consider:
- a GI binder -eg. Activated charcoal
- Nutramedix Pinella and Burbur
- dry brush your skin prior to bathing and/or showering

And here's a website with some more ideas:


www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html
Posted 11/27/2017 12:11 AM (GMT 0)
My left collar bone. I haven't check my ribs to know if any stick out yet.

Only probiotic i have is acv, will not buy any supplement atm.
Thank You

Dont think i will use Milk thistle.

I will try to put together a good detox schedule.

I already looked at all the links at "New To Lyme?.......Start here!"
Epsom salt and acv with warm water.(for foot bath/detox)
I read acv can be use for foot detox too so i mix acv and epsom salt.
Posted 11/27/2017 1:42 AM (GMT 0)
I don't think ACV is enough for a probiotic - if at all.

What is your current treatment for LD?

Not sure what tests you are considering ? Do you mean testing to see if you still have active Lyme disease?

Yes, detoxing helps alleviate herxing - but it's best to detox everyday to help minimize your chances of herxing.
Posted Yesterday 7:01 PM (GMT 0)
Well that the best i got for now.

i have not started any treatment yet. I will have to look through the forum for them, already saw a few.
Plan to do the cleanses first then treat Lyme disease.

Yes testing to see if i still have active Lyme disease.

Alright.

Thanks alot Girlie
Posted Yesterday 8:44 PM (GMT 0)
Carib_Lyme - You can purchase a probiotic in capsule form from most grocery stores...or a health food store...
Also, Kefir can be added.
Posted Today 2:02 PM (GMT 0)
Yes i can but i read about those supplemented probiotics on the internet. They don't remain in the body.
Also read through some posts that refrigerated probiotics is best.

Yes i should get the grains soon.


Can anyone help me with the cleanse?(and the other questions) How long did u all wait after the colon cleanse to do the liver cleanse?
Posted Today 6:34 PM (GMT 0)

Carib_Lyme said...
Yes i can but i read about those supplemented probiotics on the internet. They don't remain in the body.
Also read through some posts that refrigerated probiotics is best.

Yes i should get the grains soon.


I don't know what you mean that they don't remain in the body....but it is the consensus that daily probiotics are necessary - and I purchase refrigerated ones at my health food store.

You can also buy Kefir from the grocery store...in the meantime...

I haven't done a colon or liver cleanse...can't help you with that.
This will bump - for more views.
Posted Today 11:25 PM (GMT 0)
Supplemented Probiotics Don’t Remain In The Body
It is interesting to note that no study has shown supplemented probiotic strains remain in the body for more than two weeks. At the National University of Signapore, Mah et al. infants were given probiotic supplements for the first 6 months of her life. During these 6 months of supplementation, the supplemented probiotic strains were present in the infants’ feces. However, within weeks of stopping the supplementation, the probiotic strains were no longer found in the feces.
These results of this study and the results of other research suggest that supplemented probiotics assist the our native probiotic strains. The foreign probiotic strains form a beachhead for our own native probiotics, and allow our probiotics to proliferate. This situation is analogous to a foreign arming invading a country, fighting one “evil” faction, and allowing another “good” faction time to proliferate.

http://probiotics.org/amazing-facts/

I think i will try supplemental probiotics but not right now. Got to do more research on which one to buy.


I am sure there is no Kefir on the island i live, atleast i never see one.

Yea i am hoping for more people to view it then help me, i will bump this post now and then
Posted Today 11:50 PM (GMT 0)

Carib_Lyme said...
Supplemented Probiotics Don’t Remain In The Body
It is interesting to note that no study has shown supplemented probiotic strains remain in the body for more than two weeks. At the National University of Signapore, Mah et al. infants were given probiotic supplements for the first 6 months of her life. During these 6 months of supplementation, the supplemented probiotic strains were present in the infants’ feces. However, within weeks of stopping the supplementation, the probiotic strains were no longer found in the feces.
These results of this study and the results of other research suggest that supplemented probiotics assist the our native probiotic strains. The foreign probiotic strains form a beachhead for our own native probiotics, and allow our probiotics to proliferate. This situation is analogous to a foreign arming invading a country, fighting one “evil” faction, and allowing another “good” faction time to proliferate.

http://probiotics.org/amazing-facts/

I think i will try supplemental probiotics but not right now. Got to do more research on which one to buy.


I am sure there is no Kefir on the island i live, atleast i never see one.

Yea i am hoping for more people to view it then help me, i will bump this post now and then

All the more reason to take them daily - if they're only there for two weeks.
Posted 12/4/2017 5:34 PM (GMT 0)
Girlie right now i want to use better probiotic than supplemental ones.




Anyone ever experience their Powdered herbs oxidize?

Anyone ever use a shipping agency to order herbs from herbco.com?
Which form of the powdered herb is better to buy from herbco, example: organic cloves or cloves?

Can anyone help me with the cleanse? How long did you wait after the colon cleanse to do the liver cleanse?
Posted 12/4/2017 5:58 PM (GMT 0)

Carib_Lyme said...
Girlie right now i want to use better probiotic than supplemental ones.

So - in food?

Here's some options:

Kefir
Sauerkraut
Tempeh
Miso
Kombucha


I haven't done a colon cleanse, so not sure about time between it and the liver cleanse.
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