I am off of the Fluconazole for 8 days and no wierd sensations returning...yet (try this!!!)

I totally attribute the Carnicom Protocol for being able to stop Fluconazole. The Carnicom Protocol can be found at www.MorgellonsShield.com

RedEyeArab's results with MegaHydrate and Lactoferrin was a big tip off. Although I cannot yet comment about the former as I only used one bottle, and ran out, I have ordered more. I like the product and believe in the science.

As for the Lactoferrin, there is something to it when combined with the other items mentioned in the protocol. Yes you can use whey protein instead as it is cheaper.

For me this is a major breakthrough. Thank you RedEyeArab.

The science behind it is here:

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_morgellons23.htm


The protocol here: http://morgellonsshield.com/morgellons-recovery-shield-1/

Do I think it will work for Lyme as well as Morgellons? Yes. It may not be 100% but you will improve.

Although Lyme bacteria like Maganese they are surely messing with our iron conversion also as this is what bacteria do best. Lyme bacteria mess with a whole bunch of our mineral conversions.

I also believe there is more to the fungal issue than doctors will address in most cases. This isn't completely a bacterial issue IMHO.

Please see the link above and try the protocol.

I am now off of Rx's with the exception of Xanax (and the occasional Ibuprofen). I use Kratom for the pain which I have been dealing with for most of my adult life but that is all the drugs I use anymore and I have been on many antibiotics, antihelmintics, and antifungals.

Another person that I am working with with a confirmed B.Duncani infection has also improved on the protocol. Please let me know if you improve. I am giving it my seal of approval.

No he stopped having to take it as it was one of the few thing to bring him relief. ..thanks chix for the links ...keep us posted

Really happy to hear you're making major improvements ChickenArise! Have you tried replacing the Xanax (I'm assuming you're taking it for anxiety) with lithium orotate, lion's mane, black seed oil or cbd oil? xanax has a lot of harmful side-effects so I hope you can substitute it with something else in the future. Although it takes patience to eliminate all types of symptoms using the natural route, it won't take a toll on your body in the long run.

Lactoferrin, xylitol, MSM and organic stevia are a staple in my stack. They give no chance for biofilm to cling to your body. Also, I love love love megahydrate, so much so that I gave a bottle each to my mom and dad. They both felt more energetic almost immediately after taking it. Your post made my day! please keep us updated.

Hi all. Yes I was able to stop taking Fluconazole as each time I attempted this in the past the stings and crawlies would begin to slowly happen again after 72 hours.

A word about the supplements in the protocol. My shipment of Vitamins was delayed so I went to the Life Extension retailer in Panama City while I was there for the holidays. I didnt know I would end up being there for close to two weeks and didnt bring enough Fluconazole with me.

So I bought Lactoferrin, Vitamin C, Glutathione with L-Cystine and C (to replace the NAC which wasnt available). I just began taking these as well as some usual supplements that I like which are not mentioned in the protocol.

I still await the delivery of L-Carnosine, NAC, Whey. But low and behold my symptoms didnt return when I ran out of Fluconazole in the early days of my vacation. They have always returned in the past when I attempted to stop taking Fluconazole. No stinging or crawlies are occurring at all.

So even without the Carnosine and Branch chain Amino Acids I am experiencing amazing results. The Glutathione essentially replaces NAC if you get a form that the body can use as NAC is the precursor to your production of Glutathione.

If you have a not so effective and absorbable form of Glutathione, you can take it with dilute apple cider vinegar to alter the Ph in your stomach to absorb more Glutathione but I havent needed to do this. I love the care put into to Life Extension products.

Elren yes this will help you steal back the iron from the invader which is converting it to a form usable to it rather than you. The protocol corrects this process and makes the iron available to your body. However I do not take iron at all.

I believe both Lyme and Morgellons are closely related and its only certain coinfections and yeasts that make them different. Much of the bacteria will attempt to consume your iron and will steal it from your red blood cells whether you have Lyme or Morgellons, the goal is to stop this process.

Also I told a person I have been working with who has a confirmed Babesia Duncani infection along with other coinfections who has been suffering from a great deal of constant nausea for a very long time. He has been taking the Carnicom protocol for about 3 weeks. His nausea is gone and he has improved greatly. I believe the Babesia ravished iron from his red blood cells and was the source of much of his nausea.

He does not suffer the effects of Bartonella but I do but I seriously question that Bartonella is responsible for the wide range of symptoms attributed to it. My calves and feet remain tender. There were a few scratch marks before I started the part of the protocol I mentioned but they are gone.

Other than this I am only ejecting a few small barely visible lightly color particles from my skin on the front and back near the lungs but not many. They come out when I rub Mg Chloride oil on the skin and massage them out the best I can.

There recently was a hardened film emerging from the surface of my skin near the nose but that has disappeared with the addition of the supplements.

Of course I still have pain and inflammation but it is less since Mg became a staple of mine. The remaining pain is managed with Kratom. Eating food still causes pain to return so I keep meals very light.

RedEye it is good to see you here! I have attempted to reduce the Xanax intake to .25mg twice daily. I have been taking it for 30 years so it is difficult to curb but I am trying. I did buy some black seed oil and have been taking it.

The only other thing that I havent mention that occured during the time away from this forum that was about 2 months back is that I wasnt getting the results I wanted using Woodland Essence Myco and CSA but my skin and face improved when I stopped them which was not what I was expecting.

I missed all of you and thought about you often but I didnt have any information worth sharing until recently.

One of my packages arrived so I am going to retrieve it. I hope its the vitamins I have been waiting on for 2 months. I will return soon.

Thank you Chicken arise!!!!!!


I just have very mild crawling,grit/sand on scalp,and a couple small sores/pimples on scalp/night sweats just a few times in the last two weeks.

I had two 2 week stretches with no symptoms during the last 3 months.

Last Bart scratch marks were over a month ago.

No soreness in feet anymore.

Im trying to get over the last hump with Bart,morg and babesia here and what you posted may help.

I love this forum and all its members!!!

goshawk said...
Thank you Chicken arise!!!!!!


I just have very mild crawling,grit/sand on scalp,and a couple small sores/pimples on scalp/night sweats just a few times in the last two weeks.

I had two 2 week stretches with no symptoms during the last 3 months.

Last Bart scratch marks were over a month ago.

No soreness in feet anymore.

Im trying to get over the last hump with Bart,morg and babesia here and what you posted may help.

I love this forum and all its members!!!

You never really specified what you did. Was it the Carnicom Protocol or something totally different?

I went nearly 30 days straight of bone broth which contains much animal gelatin. Months if you count the non consecutive days.

Dr. Axe (who I agree with on some things only) recommends it also for healing with Lyme. I know others here like, decarte, have also supplemented with it in one form or another.

Cooking it in a pressure cooker not only reduces the time to make it down to 90 minutes but extracts much of the gelatin in the bone. I used what has become known as Ox Tail to increase the gelatin factor.

To boost my collagen I eat the cartilage of chicken. You know the part that tastes like bone but isnt. The breast bone comes with a relatively edible plate of cartilage attached.

If you are vegan I am not sure what to tell you other than I hope to be like you one day as I admire you.

MegaHydrate contains silica as well as some other advantageous ingredients that can only be gotten from that supplement. My reorder came in and I wish to duplicate RedEye's results.

Whatever organism we are dealing with are not completely bacterial in nature nor are they completely fungal. This is why antibiotics alone often fail or only provide a temporary solution. This is also why antihelmintics can provide improvement also. I have plenty of scientific evidence of the splicing of kingdoms being prevalent in today's day and age but for today it must remain simply a side note.

Also I am not getting email updates when people respond to threads. But if anyone ever needs my input or assistance do not hesitate to email me. My email is in my profile.

I am still doing well with no need for Fluconazole. I still await my L-Carnosine and have been supplementing Glutathione. Lactoferrin, and C along with other supplements that I like and would take in a complete state of health. My pain is improving and I still take relatively large amounts of Magnesium.

For amino acids I am taking Bee Pollen (shout out to BlueLyme) which is a natural state of amino acids in there whole form. The Agmatine is still necessary and L-Lysine appears to be helping.

Eiren said...

Bee pollen, that has amino's too? Awesome, I currently take about a teaspoon a day of that.

Don't think I can get Megahydrate here. My online discount supps place doesn't have it, at least.

Curious, what exactly is "relatively large amounts" of Mag? Cit or Mal or ?? Just trying to get a feel for what others are doing. Sometimes I feel like I take too many pills. Other days I wonder if I'm taking enough to be effective.

I believe we are allowed to mention vendors but not link to them. I mention them all of the time. Maybe it is just very understanding moderators on this Lyme forum at HW and I love them all. They do a tireless job that I could not do. I do however make time to work one on one with people and freely share what has helped myself and others.

Large amounts of magnesium today would be about 2000 mg daily not including Magnesium Threonate. At one time I was tolerating 5000mg before adding Magnesium Threonate. You should not be able to tolerate this much magnesium with the exception of Threonate. You have to build tolerance to it over time or stay near the toilet. I would recommend both until you know for sure.

I recently added the Magnesium Threonate. It lists as 2000mg from which it nets 144mg (so now that would be about 4000mg total daily).

My brain glitched a little on day one of Threonate and it felt like long term Gabapentin, searching my memory banks for words and names that I should have easily recalled. So it does something up there which I could feel, I just wasnt sure that was a positive.

I am happy to report that I am sticking with it and any negative effect became less and less after continued use. Currently I think it is enhancing my brain power but in all fairness this could be placebo. I have only been on it for two weeks so time may tell.

Modified Citrus Pectin was 4 grams daily taken with about the same amount of Monolauren. I am sorry I dont recognize what you mean by "Mal", maybe its the Threonate messing with me. I will keep detailed notes as I continue to experiment with this supplement.

I still am of the belief that the majority of supplements are a waste of money. But the others are downright amazing. The key is knowing your goal as well as your source, share and interact with others, and keep detailed notes adding most of them individually over time. A week apart is better than all at once unless the all at once has proven to help many others.

I too have been guilty of stacking too much at once at times wanting to be well again overnight thus beginning several supplements at the same time.

Because of this I may have blamed Magnesium for what were side effects of Woodland Essences CSA and MYCO. As one wise person once said this will be a marathon not a sprint. I stopped the W.E. products as I was not getting desired results. Your mileage may vary.

If you dont keep detailed notes and review them from time to time you risk being less equipped to help others and less prone to epiphanies and revelations.

Eiren said...
I'm in NL, so my vendor name may not be very useful to most English speakers. But the name in Dutch is "discount drugstore."

Mal is Malate. I think it was some fibro forums where people were saying Mag Malate is the bestest for relieving overall body pain.

I'm going to have to look up threonate.

I currently have citrate. There's all sorts of questions whether oral magnesium supplements get absorbed and whatever. Oxide is supposed to be the worst, but my husband finds it helpful when his arrhythmia acts up and starts panicking. Probably a placebo effect, but in the middle of a panic attack even a placebo is excellent.

I've never been opposed to "natural healing" and have frequented health food stores throughout my life. But I have to admit I was suspicious of the efficacy of herbs. Last summer I mostly just supplemented NAC, ALC, and GLA. Which maybe helped a little. But if you have a problem that needs solved, yeah, I see now how herbs can be effective. Just added in Oil of Oregano - I don't know what it's doing, but it's clearly doing something! Wow!

I don't think I'll forget when I started the OoO (seriously, wow!), but yeah, writing things down. I realized when I was posting upthread that I don't remember when I started supplementing iron. I used to be able to remember stuff, ya know?

I got some Solaray OoO on sale so I bought 3 bottles. I like to do rounds of it. My goal with this is to somehow get it deeper into the intestines before the capsule bursts open. I am searching for a capsule that will survive the stomach acid and open in the intestines. Even empty fill them yourself gel caps to fill with oil would be fine.

My son wont do OoO in drinks so I am saving much of it for him.

The Mg I use is a combination from Life Extension as is the Threonate. I cant say enough good things about this brand in general.

I have some Spanish Black Radish on the way that is shipping with the L-Carnosine I am still waiting on. I have heard good things versus mold.