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Posted 1/23/2018 6:47 PM (GMT 0)
So after almost two years I’ve been doing fairly well - just some achiness here and there.

But for the past 6 months I’ve been having these recurring flu like symptoms - fever, flu achiness (I can distinguish this from Lyme aches), headache, and a recurring pain in my right ear / throat. The latter makes me think it’s a flu I caught last August that was never fully tackled? But the problem is, now it’s coming pretty much once a month, and when I catch it the fever lasts at least 4 days. I suspect it comes when I weaken my immune system slightly - exposure to cold, cheats in my strict at home Lyme diet, sleep patterns, etc.

Any suggestions on how to fight this faster??? Or stop it from recurring?? It’s very disruptive and frustrating!

By the way I’m still on a full protocol of antibiotics (5 different ones) and plenty of supplements.
Posted 1/23/2018 7:21 PM (GMT 0)
Maybe you could add monolaurin to help kill the viruses. I have no clue if that would work. Just throwing ideas out. That's what my doctor gave me to try to fight viruses. I reacted very badly to it because obviously I have a lot of viruses to kill. haha.
Posted 1/23/2018 8:48 PM (GMT 0)
Hm, interesting. Definitely not absolutely sure it's a flu virus. What's weird is it usually begins as aches – first I interpret them as the typical Lyme aches, but then I realize they're more flu-like aches. Sometimes this can last 2-3 days, and only in the night, and be accompanied by tossing and turning and nightmares. When it first happened in August I thought it was a flare-up, but then with the accompanying fever I suspected the flu (although I was in a hot climate at that point, so catching a flu is tough). I had never had a fever with all my flu symptoms in the year prior to that.

My doctor thought it could also be Babesia acting up, and recommended I take an extra dose of mypron when it comes – but that hasn't helped.

If it is a flare-up, how would I know? And how can I treat it?
Posted 1/23/2018 11:08 PM (GMT 0)
NAC is allegedly good for boosting the immune system. And the of course vitamin C.

Also, Buhner has a "immune tonic". It's Rhodiola, Schisandra, Eleuthero. Matter fact I'm taking it right now.

And I have to give it at least some credit for only having a cold last week for 2 days. I would imagine it would have taken longer to get over without it.

I took the immune tonic, NAC, and ate oranges for those two days.
Posted 1/24/2018 1:37 AM (GMT 0)
I had tested positive for influenza a Jan 1. Fever and aches feeling like junk. I did ten pass ozone and th aches and fever went away. I don't know if it was time for the flu to leave-it was day four. I do know that Dr rowen treated ebola with ozone-he has a great youtube channel.
You may consider using some ozone
Posted 1/24/2018 3:59 PM (GMT 0)
I take NAC, vit C, and an immune booster (Immucare, I think it's similar to the Buhner one). Can't tell how much any of them help though! Haven't considered ozone but will look into it, thanks!
Posted 1/24/2018 4:01 PM (GMT 0)
@1000Daisies could I email you to ask more questions? Since your email address isn't available on this website, you could send me an email (my email is available) and I could reply? Thanks!
Posted 1/28/2018 6:22 PM (GMT 0)
1000dasies thanks so much for all of this! This is definitely helpful, at least for a bit of potential clarity haha...

I figure I might list my symptoms more fully here - first to see if you think it matches your kid’s (as you’ve indicated), and second in the hopes the detail could help others on this forum in the future...

Symptoms usually follow this pattern:
1. Tossing and turning in sleep, nightmares
2. Slight faintness during day
3. Red, hot ears
4. Achy legs, flu aches not Lyme aches (the difference is extremely slight)
5. Sore throat and right ear
6. Fever, which lasts 3-5 days

It’s come 4 times now, I’ve felt the symptoms a few other times but somehow was able to avoid it turning into the aches and fever. The first time the trigger was some high sugar fruit, car travel, and jumping in a cold river. Second time less than 8 hours of sleep two nights in a row plus sugar and cold air. Third time sleep + banana. 4th time sleep + bad food that provoked my old leaky gut issues.

The 2nd time I made it worse by trying to work through it, it lasted 9 days. The 3rd I was more careful, worked a little but from bed, but it still lasted 6 days. The 4th I literally didn’t do anything but sleep and it still lasted 5. As you said the only thing that helps is Advil, though as soon as it wears off everything comes back.

A few small questions for when you have time!
- Did you pinpoint any triggers?
- How long did this last, ie how many times approximately?
- Any foods that you found helped during the flares?
- Same for exercises - during and after - I lose a lot of muscle mass and have a lot of muscle tension from laying in bed for so long.
- Maybe if you have time if you could list the detox methods you tried that didn’t work, at least that could be useful for elimination sake! I wrapped my feet in garlic and plastic wrap a few times as I thought it helped, but now I’m not so sure it did.

Thanks again!!!!!
Posted 2/4/2018 2:05 AM (GMT 0)
Have you ever tested for Brucellosis? I know it can cause cyclical symptoms that mimic flu.

You might also want to test for HHV-6, EBV, and other herpesviruses.

You could try pulsing lomatium tincture (my favorite for viral infections), also hyssop, and boneset tea which Buhner recommends for bart and babs anyway is actually a good flu remedy, esp. w/ acute symptoms.
Posted 2/8/2018 9:26 AM (GMT 0)
Update from my doctor: she also thinks it’s NOT the flu (because I don’t have typical flu symptoms, like respiratory). Instead she is giving me some new meds to see if it might be caused by a parasite or Babesia.
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