Success with Buhner Protocol for Bartonella?

Hi i'm looking to do the Buhner protocol for Bartonella as I have horrible brain symptoms (feel crazy), pressure in left temple, red eyes, tingling, eye problems, tinnitus, brain fog, anxiety, some MS type symptoms & sleep issues.

I did Antibiotics for 8 months with a 'Lyme Doctor' but only noticed my stretch marks faded away and sore eyes went away. I didn't want to take antibiotics any longer and risk resistance with such little improvement.

I'm taking Lauricidin at the moment and Hottuynia, looking to start full Buhner protocol? Has anyone had success in getting better with this please?

Also is it OK to use tinctures for all the herbs? I was going to look at sourcing from Bristol Botanicles?

Thank you !

The herbs that seemed to help my bartonella symptoms are boneset, sida actua, red root, stephania, and N-Acetyl-Cysteine. Of course I'm taking other herbs too. Rifampin never did anything for me. I don't have too many bartonella symptoms now. but I've got a pretty bad rash.

i'll tell you 2 things that are guaranteed to kick bart's butt (and your own from the herxing).

the isatis/houttuynia/alchornea combo that buhner lists under his bartonella protocol. this one is a triple whammy so be very careful dosing.

black cumin seed oil is another one guaranteed to hit gram negative pathogens pretty hard.

I'm on an antibiotic protocol for Bart which currently includes Clarithro and Rifampin...will be eventually adding Rifabutin...it seems to have activated my 'always there but previously more latent' joint aches.

I have the Buhner protocol tinctures but have been too scared to take them. I don't want to be experimenting on my own. Do they really help kick Bart and cure you? Has anyone cured themselves with it?

Also - how do you CHECK to see if you have candida? Are there any identifiable candida symptoms?

Thanks a lot, guys! So badly in need of support from the uncertainty of this disease- my doc doesn't have a great bedside manner!

Dollface29 said...
I'm on an antibiotic protocol for Bart which currently includes Clarithro and Rifampin...will be eventually adding Rifabutin...it seems to have activated my 'always there but previously more latent' joint aches.

I have the Buhner protocol tinctures but have been too scared to take them. I don't want to be experimenting on my own. Do they really help kick Bart and cure you? Has anyone cured themselves with it?

Also - how do you CHECK to see if you have candida? Are there any identifiable candida symptoms?

Thanks a lot, guys! So badly in need of support from the uncertainty of this disease- my doc doesn't have a great bedside manner!

Buhner's herbs do cause Bart symptoms to intensify. I can only assume that means it is doing something to kill Bart. I'm 8 months into the Buhner protocol and have recently had a big flare of Bart symptoms after some initial improvements. It's going to take me a while. I've had this stuff for decades.

Don't be too afraid of the Buhner herbs. Just start with tiny doses. When starting a new herb, I like to do a taste test. I put one drop of the herb (usually tincture drops) on or under my tongue and see what my initial reaction is. If I don't notice any symptoms from it, I'll increase by a drop or two until I get some kind of symptom response for better or worse.

Just so you know, the herbs that increase symptoms for many people are houttynia (which is in the IHA formula), sida acuta (which is in the CSA formula), Japanese knotweed and cat's claw. I would start with a few drops or 1/8 tsp or less if using powdered herbs of those. Any antibacterial herbs have the potential to cause a herx, so start with low doses and slowly increase.

If you're on abx and already herxing from that, I would wait until you're not herxing before adding herbs.

Just like with abx, herx reactions from herbs can occur quickly or come days to weeks later. Just keep that in mind.

I just found out you can get black cumin seed and black cumin seed oil from Mountain Rose herbs. I'm going to try it soon. Has anyone else had improvement from it?

Do you all think individual herbs are better bet for coinfections or are the combos a strong enough dose ( sort of unmeasurable) ? I will be blindly challenging and looking for reactions...

I'm doing bruhners core through green dragon caps and I'm starting to think I need to go with individual herbs so I can increase dose. Especially of andrographis.

Hi Rikki ...

If you have a minute and could elaborate on what bugs cause what here... if it's not too much. Is there a simple way to look at it that I could be missing. I'm trying to figure out coinfections. I'll prob just add in CSA or IHA and see if I have a reaction...

Thanks so much for this WalkingByFaith! Yes, I might cautiously try to start after I stop herxing with abx and start small with Sida Acuta or Houttuniya. I'm terrified of Cat's Claw (the name itself, lol), thanks a lot for the direction.

Thanks so much, cr3ativegirl! Unfortunately, not sure if that test is available in my country but I will try to look into it. I will be starting black cumin seed oil as well though, just as a candida-fighter whether I have it or not. Thanks!

Post Edited (Dollface29) : 2/15/2018 12:22:16 PM (GMT-7)

bump

I know this is an older post, but I'm bumping it out of interest in hearing more success stories and maybe the people who posted on it can tell us how they're doing now, if they're still on here that is.