Relapsing Babesia!

I googled Relapsing Babesia Healingwell.com and got my own entry from last January. So, Ha. Anyway, hi guys. I'm back. Read the original entry - things are pretty much the same from Jan 2017.

Since November, I've been doing great, pretty much healed Lyme-wise and recovering from foot surgery in January, which has gone better than I imagined.

However, twice in the past month, I've gotten the babesia migraine and night sweats and feet tingling. I scanned myself with my EDS machine and sure enough, it's back. I apparently have 3 different strains. I stopped Crypto 4 months ago, went to Peru, all was awesome. Last month, I got the Babesia light headed upon rising, vise headache and nights sweats again.

It seems like I can't get rid of it. This episode wasn't as bad as last month. As Rikky1 suggested, I did end up doing the plaquenil for 6 months last year and it worked but the functional medicine doctor is so expensive, I stopped going to him. I switched to Cryptolepsis for 9 months and had no Babs symptoms. Ditto for not doing the meprone - too expensive and who knows if it will work.

Buhner says people can stay on Cryptolepsis for years. I read that Babesia down regulates the T1 immune response, and my labs confirm that so what do you think about me trying some Astralagus at this point?

I've been pulsing Pure encapsulations Micro Defense 1 week on, 1 week off. Seems to kill something because I get the crickets in the ears and the coated tongue.

Thanks guys!!

Stephen changed his rec from CSA to CS and Bidens pilosa

I have been on the CSA for months and months - it’s just every time I go off it, it comes back. I use woodland essence, they are great. I guess I will add Biden’s back in. I remember ordering that initially in 2016 and went through 1 bottle but didn’t take it the 5 months and the babs came back. Thanks for the reminder!!!

goshawk- I added 1 drop of astralagus several weeks ago when this flared, and nothing happened, so you have given me some encouragement to try to up it a bit and see if I can kick this thing for good. Thanks everyone!

cr3ativegirl,

You said your labs confirmed something about TH1 immune response. Can you tell me which specific labs this was? Was it done through Labcorp? If I can, I'd like to be tested to see if I'd be able to take astragalus. I don't want to just try it and see, because everything makes me herx, and I wouldn't know about which immune response was going on.

cr3ativegirl said...
WalkingbyFaith - The labs my doctor ordered were: Human Transforming growth factor beta 1, VIP, cd57, C4a. He was thinking mold in my tissues was still causing problems suppressing immune response. But that really doesn't fit anymore. Whether those are the right tests or not to determine immune response, that is what he said they were for.

You can get electro dermal screening to test products to see if they work on you. OR someone to do muscle testing.
Lapi_29 - Dang. I was just in Peru. Could have grabbed some. You can buy anything on any corner there for super cheap.

You can get ivermectin on amazon for $15, yes its horse meds but its the same for humans, lots of people use it. here is another blog of someone using iver to treat babs

/lymevlog.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/treat-babesia-with-anthelmintics-not-antimalarials-ii-learned-after-eight-years/

Thanks. I just can't do the mepron because of the cost and its just too risky that it won't work. I do think there is some resistance going on, or its the relapsing type that hides. I'm going to consider the ivermectin. My functional medicine doctor suggested it a couple of months ago. I can always go back to him. Do you have to get liver enzymes tested. I really don't want to see any worms in the toilet..ha..

Currently, I'm on cryptolesis, side, alchorea, jk, korean ginseng, eleuthro, shisandra, rhodiola, cordyseps and reishi, 3 drops of astralagus; I'm pulsing MicroDefence by PE one week on, one week off, which has berberine, artemisia, olive, clove and grapefruit extract.

Hopefully, adding the Bidens back in for the next 7 or 8 months, maybe that will do it . Thanks!!!!

Cr3ativegirl - i wish i had some good advice for you.. just to say that relapsing is no fun, my wife has relapsed for the second time now and it is not fun. Keep up the fight!

Anyway - YOU HAVE AN EDS 3000? can I ask where you got it? I love that machine. My wife literally takes any medicine/supplements/herbs to get checked by that machine and it never fails (stuff she feels crappy on it says nope not for you). The practitioner that she sees that uses that is retiring soon, so I've always been curious to get my hands on one.

>>I just can't do the mepron because of the cost and its just too risky that it won't work.

Not sure I understand why you think its too risky it won't work? You highest probability for eradicating babesia is atovaquone so what you are doing currently is in fact way riskier than taking this route.

Dr. J in DC has treated thousands of patients and healed them from babesia and he's been using atovaquone for close to two decades so you have quantitative data and success rate to consider when making your decisions.

I'd rather come to a gunfight with a bazooka then a pistol if you know what I mean ;o)

I mentioned Malarone because that's a cheaper alternative because it has atovaquone but much less and the proguanil makes it more effective.

Can you try Primaquine + Plaquenil for Babesia? Dr. Marty Ross had luck with that combo with a patient that had "tried it all" for Babesia. I have a hunch it would work for Bart too.

cr3ativegirl said...
Marty Ross is speaking in Austin so I’m gonna ask him about that. Thanks for the heads up. I’ll post what he says.

Good to hear he’s still involved in the lyme community - since he closed his practice.