Confused about Low Stomach Acid HCI and high Acidic body Levels

So I recently switched LLMD's and getting possibly conflicting support directions.

Went to my original LLMD recently for rapid hair loss. He put me on Metagenics Metagest which is a stomach acid support with Betaine HCI and Pepsin.

Saw a new LLMD this week and she recommended I take Alka-Selzer Gold 5 times daily. Basd on this I stopped taking Acid Support a few days ago.

Note I do test low in Alkaline Test at4.5 ish.

I just downed a couple of AK -Gold tablets an chased it with a few sips of Alkaline water and I had a weird heady reaction. Can't tell if it was a herx or flare.

Are these acids the same? Reaction to AK- Gold anyone?

I remember your asking about PH in a previous thread. Again, there is saliva Ph and urine Ph, they can be very different and can vary a little throughout the day.

I am pretty much cured, in remission with a very healthy gut and eat a low meat Paleo anti inflammatory diet (no sugar, glutan, milk). Candida under control. Thyroid levels good (proper stomach acid from T3 hormone).

Out of curiosity, I just tested both Ph's, since I have not done this in a while, I feel good, and Ph looks good:

saliva around 7-7.4
2nd urine of day 6.4-7
these colors are not easy to visually match, thus the approximation.

New LLMD is trying to increase alkaline level with AG. States Lyme likes a acidic environment and raising overall PH level brings the body back into balance and create a hostile environment for Lyme.

This is a sound strategy and known.

What my (now former) LLMD reasoning was I reported I had a lot of hair loss and Low stomach acid is a the usual contributor. However I was already testing at very acidic levels.

NEW Discovery!!

So this is interesting. I just read that having a low stomach acid levels when eating protein causes inadequate digestion of the protein which results is raising the acidic level in the blood.

So I think that was the answer I was looking for.

Funny I just read Bryan Rosner's book and he mentions learning to listen to your body.

I really had a negative reaction to the AG.

So it looks like reducing stomach acid is not the road to higher PH levels.

I must admit while my old LLMD was not a Lyme/co-infection expert. He did seem to be a expert on balancing the body through diet and supplements.

Hmm. I think I'll keep him as my Supplement advisor.

astroman said...
I remember your asking about PH in a previous thread. Again, there is saliva Ph and urine Ph, they can be very different and can vary a little throughout the day.

I am pretty much cured, in remission with a very healthy gut and eat a low meat Paleo anti inflammatory diet (no sugar, glutan, milk). Candida under control. Thyroid levels good (proper stomach acid from T3 hormone).

Out of curiosity, I just tested both Ph's, since I have not done this in a while, I feel good, and Ph looks good:

saliva around 7-7.4
2nd urine of day 6.4-7
these colors are not easy to visually match, thus the approximation.

Yes I recall,, Unfortunately both my test are still very low.

Some days I get little to no change in color at all.

However what I'm finding is that ingesting antacids and possibly high alkaline water when eating can actually directly raise your Acidic levels in your blood.

This is just the opposite of what I thought. Funny after buying a high alkaline bottle water I thought to test it and then test my Well water. Turns out my Well, which is where I get my 3 quarts per day from, actually has a very high PH level. Not as high as the bottled but above 7.5.

I have to say I know AG is one of more popular Detox remedies on this forum but me personally will stay away from it.

astroman said...
Yes , I forgot AG can be a detoxer, so many better ways to do this though.

Best way to approach a balanced PH is diet, which I dont know if your addressing.

Red meat protein is acidic. Veggie protein and chicken........way less.

Yes working on that.

Thanks!!!

low acid/b vits can be sign of h pylori

Would anyone be able to tell me how to have your pH level tested? I do have the pH strips but am not sure how accurate my own testing w/it is...

I've had blood Ph done with a regular lab.

Out of curiosity, I just tried blood Ph on litmus paper (test strips). As one you guess, you cant read it since the paper stays a dark red instead of the Ph spectrum colors.

Saliva and urine Ph can be done semi-accurate with litmus test paper. The accuracy lies in your ability to see full color or not.