update on my situation please help

Why would they put that in the lotion at a massage parlor?

It just seems like you're really reaching here. The best explanation is often the most simple and obvious one. It just doesn't make sense that a massage parlor that wants to bring in money would be making their clientele sick intentionally in such a way.

I would appreciate you not being so rude towards me. No, I do not live in a fairy tale where you only get lyme from a tick. Personally, I have no recollection of a tick bite or a bulls eye rash. That said, conspiracy theories are not the only logical conclusions here. I am a well educated person, please stop insinuating that I am not.

Having known **********s, I don't think its very accurate to state that **********s are some of the biggest criminals out there. Many are just people like you and I that are out there making a living. So, what you are saying you are sure of still does not make sense to me.

As for your question -- what band is associated with ospA? Many people with many different bands have gotten better.

Its not a paranoid claim it happens all over the US. I got chronic lyme overnight the way people did from the vaccine. If you think its strictly from ticks i'm sorry to hear that.

Lyme and brucellosis have both been weaponized. They were both studied as bio weapons. There are evil people in this world. There are many people out there just like me with the same exact story and you still try to say its a paranoid claim because you don't believe you can get lyme this way. Its funny because it I listened to my CDC infectious disease doc I would have never known I had lyme because they said the same thing. No bullseye rash tick bla bla bla then I get a full blown positive result with IGX.

The reason great strides aren't always made is because people are not open to thinking you can get this any way besides a tick. And that 3 weeks of doxy will cure you. Just like the CDC says. Great way to exclude people from a diagnosis.

I was mainly concerned about the protein associated with chronic lyme disease but your so focused on the story that we will get nowhere.

And if you know anything about human trafficking you may understand that these girls in this situation are in fact sex slaves and they literally live in the facility and pay a housing fee. They do it to people every day I am talking to a guy that has the same symptoms same lady same place same mysterious substance same everything. If you'd like I can email you the place you can get in touch with all these people. THERE WAS NO exchange of any fluids just a mystery substance in EVERY CASE.

I didn't do a heinous thing I was an innocent kid and I stopped her immediately but the substance was already on me. She put it on me after demanding more money as a tip and me telling her I just want a normal massage. She left the room came back with a mystery substance and then almost immediately reached under my towel and tried anyways. I left immediately and it was too late and within 48 hours BOOM.

Thanks for trying to bash me. I came here to try and get help. The transmission doesn't matter anymore.

This is still highly improbable.

You have to look at odds and probability.

Lyme is something that is surprisingly not well known as it should be. It is greatly under researched and misunderstood by the main stream medical community. With weaponize germs or germ warefare, no one is thinking about "lyme". There's much more well known and "popular" options that could be used.

Also, you are suggesting that a random shady massage parlor (not the beacon of scientifically savvy people) someone how obtained, cultivated, and properly administered lyme laced lotion on your junk and now you have lyme. Not to mention bacteria can't just survive and/or be strong enough to infect someone if you put it in any random liquid chemical concoction. Not saying I know for certain that lyme can't survive being in a bottle of lotion but you also don't know from a scientific standpoint if it could.

Come on man.

What random shady, massage parlor goes though the trouble and cost of being evil to screw people over with "lyme lotion" just to mess up someone's health.

That's now how anything in this world works. There's way to many massive holes in this theory.

looking4acure - I believe that there are bad people in the world who do really heinous things. As for lyme being weaponized, you have to understand...if that's true, it still remains...you have it and you need to get rid of it. A lot of people don't want to hear that the government is out to get us. It's too scary for them to process. Either way, you have some options here: Fight the powers that be or just get yourself well. I personally don't have the energy to fight the powers that be. OR get yourself well and then fight the powers that be.

As for the massage parlor using a product with an endotoxin, if it's true they used it - you should find out what the ingredients in their products are. Start there. They most likely didn't do it willingly. They probably aren't even aware of what the ingredients are. This is how it works in almost all beauty salons: A representative from Company X walks in one day (unannounced) and asks to show the manager/owner their products. They do a sales pitch and if it sounds good, the salon orders it. Not all salons care what's in their products - they just want to be fancy, use what works, fall prey to a sales pitch, or want to save money. It's not a dastardly plan.

Also: Be aware, there is a lot of contradicting information on the web. It's not all true and it's not all false. I'm sure it falls somewhere in the middle. Either way, you have to keep your stress down with this illness. It doesn't help you to spend hours pouring over the net, getting into arguments online, getting stressed. Stress keeps you sick.

You say you got sick overnight - there is a possibility you were already sick and the massage shook some things loose. Massage is a major form of detoxing and can cause people to come down the flu, become nauseous, headaches, and lots more. It's possible the heavy detox merely gave your body an opening to let the lyme take a foothold. My opening was heavy stress of personal family issues and a very stressful move. I was sick for two years before I had recognizable symptoms.

Plenty of people get well from lyme disease. You can get well too. It's a long, grueling process and it's going to take years, but it's not impossible. Even endotoxins can be removed from the body with proper detoxing - that also takes time. Thank you for sharing this information. I know you're just trying to help and some people can't or won't hear it. Don't worry about them. Listen to your body, stay focused on getting well. Lyme is a scary disease, but you have support here and you're not alone.

Post Edited (10LymeB) : 4/19/2018 10:40:04 PM (GMT-6)

Okay - I think we need to change the direction of this thread. There's no point in arguing anymore about the incident at the massage parlor. It really doesn't matter now, does it?

We don't condone name calling and disrespect here.

looking4acure - you did test positive for lyme disease...and didn't you already start treatment with a LLMD? How is that going? At this point, I think it would be best to put that 'incident' behind you...and concentrate on getting well. All this anger and negativity isn't conducive to healing. I think you know that.