I’m going to the Hansa Center!!

Hello all, I have decided that I’m going to go to the Hansa Center!! Reading everyone else’s experiences on this forum (as well as a few others) has been monumentally helpful in helping me decide on which clinic I wanted to go to (thank you so much to all of you who have done so!) so I want to make sure that I do the same. I’m going to try my hardest to include important information while also trying not to include incessant details. 😅


I’m going for 3 weeks starting July 16th. I was previously seeing Dr. H in Hyde Park for the past 4-5 years. I have seen a few other Lyme specialists (one being Dr. C in Mount Kisco that couldn’t have been more of a waste of time, as well as a few other doctors, naturopaths and a local herbalist, etc etc.).


I have tried just about every combination of oral antibiotics (as well as a bunch you’ve probably never even heard of), a bunch of herbal protocols, rife machine, intramuscular shots and probably a few other things I’m forgetting). Nothing has ever worked on me. I’ve just progressively gotten worse and worse over the years.


I’ve now been completely disabled with this disease for over 7 years. I’ve had to start using a wheelchair this past year and I’m only able to leave the house once every few months for short periods (although if I’m being honest, my life probably would have been a whole hell of a lot easier if I had started using a wheelchair years ago).


My biggest symptoms are severe chronic fatigue syndrome/debilitating fatigue. The other day I was trying on a few bathing suits I had ordered (you need one for the sauna for the Hansa center) and it completely wrecked me for the whole day. I had a severe crash after, just to give you an idea of my fatigue levels!


My next biggest symptom has always been brain fog and cognitive issues. However, since this past fall after starting a new protocol I developed a new symptom. Ironically (or perhaps not), it took me awhile to figure out what it was. I am delirious all day every day and it is severe. I have a general overall complete lack of awareness/what’s going on around me, as well as confusion. I’ve also had a pretty stark decline in cognitive function to the point where it’s noticeable to those around me. It literally feels like I’ve developed dementia while also just being constantly delirious. (As a side note, I started taking the Jerginan Neuro-Antitox II CNS/PNS drops and Borrelogen last week and think it might be helping as I was able to write this post, so woot!).


I also have fibromyalgia/muscle pain & weakness as well as mental fatigue. I have dozens of other symptoms as well (as I’m sure most of us do), but I wanted my post to be somewhat concise! Haha


Please let me know if you have any questions or if there’s anything else I should add! I will try my hardest to keep you all updated.

Best of luck keep us posted ...If hansa doesnt work consider bvt ...got me walking again

Best of healing to you at Hansa!!!!

Please keep us updated and I am so happy for you.

I'm so happy for you. Please keep us posted. I've read Dr. Jernigan's book and am doing very good on his remedies, Neuro Antitox II Basic and Lymogen. I have lyme, Bartonella, Babesia. I haven't had any herxes on Jernigan's remedies.

It helps to keep a journal. I even write down the time that I take my remedies; otherwise I am forgetful. I created a Remedies sheet to keep up with this separate from my journal. Then I transfer information to my journal later.

This is just awesome news!

Post Edited (gerdy) : 6/6/2018 6:40:12 PM (GMT-6)

How exciting! Best wishes and please tell us all about it when you get back!!

sandyfeet said...
This is very exciting! It sounds like the Neuro-Antitox and Borrelogen are already working wonders as your post was crystal clear and full of positive hope.

Wishing you much healing at Hansa and looking forward to your updates. I suspect many of us have had our interest piqued lately by all the positive reviews, I know I have.

Thank you!! I'm not quite getting the results I'd like yet from the drops (I've been on both for a few weeks now), but it's still pretty early and I wasn't taking molybdenum (a main part of Dr. Jernigan's
protocol) until very recently.

bluelyme said...
Best of luck keep us posted ...If hansa doesnt work consider bvt ...got me walking again

Thanks for the tip! I was interested in this treatment awhile ago, but ended up changing my mind due to the mixed reviews. My boyfriend actually did a "test sting" and had pretty long lasting severe arthritis as a result. That being said, I'm glad it worked for you!

gerdy said...
I'm so happy for you. Please keep us posted. I've read Dr. Jernigan's book and am doing very good on his remedies, Neuro Antitox II Basic and Lymogen. I have lyme, Bartonella, Babesia. I haven't had any herxes on Jernigan's remedies.

Hi gerdy! I've been following your improvement on your thread. I'm so happy to hear that you're doing better!! Your story really is inspiring. Please continue to keep us updated whenever you can.

Deejavu said...
Hi Love_Yourself,

I'm so happy for you! I believe you made the right decision and good for you for starting the Neuro-Antitox and Borrelogen ahead of time. I have a gut feeling that once you are at the Hansa Center they may increase the Neuro-Antitox after they test you based on your symptoms.

Rikky1, I agree with you that it's heartbreaking to read stories about people who get debilitated by this disease... That said, I only wish that LLMD's would attend the workshops offered by the Hansa Center (I know they used to offer these workshops) to learn not only more about this disease but different approaches to treat (or just learn about biological medicine).

Denise

Thank you so much! Your story was one of the stories that helped convince me to go to the Hansa Center!!


I couldn't agree more about how beneficial it would be for LLMD's to learn different treatment approaches for this disease!!!

I truly believe that one of the reasons why I have been sick for so long was because I was stuck in the conventional/allopathic medicine mindset of thinking that the only way I could get better was to attack the lyme & coinfections as much as possible. However, I didn't become chronically ill and completely disabled through one day getting a random tick bite. I had contracted Lyme disease as a teen and while I developed fibromyalgia a few years later, I was a pretty high functioning & high energy person for almost a decade before a series of extremely stressful events and pushing myself too hard caused a complete and total debilitating disease.

It never really made sense why the best treatment method was to constantly bomb my body (either with antibiotics or herbs) when the initial infection wasn't even what caused my collapse to begin with. But I kept sticking with that because I truly believed that was the only way I could get better. 7 years later...after having a complete and total lifestyle change (where I literally couldn't be living a healthier lifestyle!!) and trying numerous herbs and antibiotic treatments (from one of the best LLMD's) and I'm STILL sicker than a dog?? Not only that, but I'm continuing to just decline year after year... then yes, something is seriously not right at all with that treatment approach. At least it's not for me!


I think it's great that the conventional treatment modality of solely attacking the lyme and detoxing works well with other patients. But for those of us who are stuck and never getting better or even getting worse, we really need to be open to alternative treatments. The body is connected after all!

Thank you LoveYourself. It's good to know that my story is inspiring to you.

My energy levels are quite good.

I believe this is from Dr. Jernigan's remedies and because he recommended the book by Dr. Rau that has lots of recipes, which I needed. I have to alter some of them because of allergies to gluten and soy. It's a simple fix to eliminate those foods. I've even been able to eat some goat cheese. I simplified my diet to a green smoothie in the morning and later, a salad with a sweet potato sometimes, and maybe 1 other meal or healthy snacks, like carrot and celery with guacamole. I still follow some of Dr. Rau's recipes, especially for my salad.

This is my 2nd month on the remedies. I'm very satisfied with the results. I've had substantial improvements with memory and my pain levels are way down.

I'm looking forward to hearing from you about your Hansa Center treatment.

cppoly said...
Love yourself, I always told myself if nothing worked for me I would go to the Hansa Center. Dr. Jernigan is great. But the cost has always deterred me. What will it cost for 3 weeks there? I believe the last time I looked into it was $10,000 and that was just for 2 weeks.

Plus accommodations and meals.


Does the price include medications/IV's you get while there?

Thanks Deejavu - I didn't realize it's all oral supplements (no IV's) at the Hansa centre.

I have to add that since adding Jerrnigans Borrelogen ( also Antti tox II CNS/PNS)to my Buhner Bart protocol about a month ago I have seen a few things happen.

First I am not even on the full dose yet. I am taking 5 drops 3X day so far of Borrelogen.

Antti Tox II I am taking 10 drops 3x daily.

I did herx mildy from it so building up slowly.

I did have some Babesia symptoms reappear for a few days(night sweats and minor chills a few times, back of head pressure. Surprised me as I was clear of Babesia symptoms for some time now.

However as I continue , things are getting better including some Bart symptoms.

I hope this is what I needed to help me get past 95%

Note: I didn't continue the Naltrexone that I took once during this same time,due to excessively high irritability/rage.

LoveYourself - would you send me a short note ?

I hope you have good news and are doing well!

WalkingbyFaith said...
saraeli would like to know more about Hansa.

I’m thinking it would be best if she emailed a few members to hear their experiences - the Site Admin deleted some negative posts from this thread

They were deleted before I saw them so I don’t know what they said.

If anyone posts it’s best to just post about the methods used, the testing, if you improved while you were there.. etc